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I tried watching a modern Indy race and push to pass has become the focal point of the race. It was terrible imo. "Billy has more push to pass than Bobby, but Tommy has more push to pass than Billy...(ten seconds go by)...Now Bobby has more push to pass than Billy and Tommy...(ten more seconds)...Darrel tricked Billy, Bobby, and Tommy into using more push to pass wowzer..." Barely even exaggerating.
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It's very clear, Ferrari did a great job during the winterstop ! Ferrari is back in the game !
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I heard RB is working on it pretty hard . And Horner hopes that the engine (upgrade) is ready for Catalunya . RB worked last year already on it .They pushed extra HP , but they had non-stop cooling issues in the pre-tests. Indeed. McLaren is also better than last year, but they are still running behind the facts with a lot of work to do .
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Who is your fav. driver ?
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You don't know my fav. driver ? That must be a joke ! check #2 => http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1490984
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Yup....Can do no wrong Vestappen. Everyone else is crashing into him as they dont know how to brake, steer or move out of the way....
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Facetious much?
A car moving faster and that has just had the front downforce reduced (by the car moving in front of it) has a far reduced maximum braking capacity than the car in front. Racers know this implicitly. Max's double block made the accident inevitable. Daniel's move didn't make the collision inevitable. There was a gap, which according to the rules, should have remained a gap. Max's choice to block was the cause of the collision, not Daniel's speed or direction. He was the victim. Now tell me that when you're driving down the highway at the speed limit, and another driver moves in front of you, inside your braking distance, going a lot slower, that the ensuing collision is your own fault. Yours Aye Mark H
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Probably what Max said in the team debrief.
Fact is that Ric is the king of the late brakers. The master of brake-by-wire. It's no wonder he drinks out of his shoe -- those feet are pure magic. But yeah, you go on believing your Golden Fish is blameless. That'll work too. For a while. |
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Also, in your example, the driver just wants to continue going the speed limit; whereas in the case of RIC, he is making a pass. Braking for the car you're trying to pass isn't normally in the equation.
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However I will stay ... unlike F1 cars, Indy Cars aren't that much faster, and have the same aero ... so for Indy Car it's the alternative to F1's DRS> Again to me, the best thing would be to loosen the time constraints of the DRS and stop so much of this chasing and turn the DRS into something it was designed to do ... pass. |
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Sure I'm an admitted Ricciardo "fan boy" ... but I like Max a lot, both as a driver and as a person; and root for him every race. There's no denying that Max's slide back to the racing line caused the crash. If he stayed where he was after his racing move ... we wouldn't even be having this discussion. |
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Yes I definitely remember the two move rule and Vettel did it last year a couple of times. My assessment of Daniel losing downforce was correct according to Ross Brawn. This is the reason they're trying to change the aero package for next year. If they had the new package or an aero similar to Indy car, Daniel would have been able to get full braking or had grip to move to the outside again. That was the main point I was trying to make. Brawn's assessment: "But I would like to highlight a technical point. Once Daniel had settled for his line, and Max had changed direction blocking that line, the Australian became a passenger. "The downforce loss experienced by Ricciardo in the wake of Verstappen's car would have made it unstoppable. "We often think of downforce in cornering, but the impact the extra grip has in braking is huge. "Take away that grip in braking and what happened on Sunday was inevitable." Brawn said the incident was timely, as it highlighted the aerodynamic problems his team is trying to tackle with changes for 2021, but also the measures pushed through for next year by the F1 Commission this week. "While this was a very severe example, it did highlight once more the need of finding a way to develop the rules to make the cars more raceable in these conditions," he said. "The decision of the Strategy Group and the F1 Commission, sanctioned by the FIA World Motorsport Council, to approve a number of aerodynamic modifications, aimed at promoting closer racing and more overtaking for the 2019 season is definitely an important step. "It's also important to note that the decision has been taken after an intense period of research into the FIA's proposals, which were made with the support of Formula 1 and conducted by a majority of the teams. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...-in-baku-clash
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I don't believe that an entire car width's move to the right, followed by more than a car width's move to the left are "small" moves. Daniel aimed for a gap that was at least 1.5 car widths. Max closed that gap. As you say and as I already said before, it was Max's move that made the collision inevitable.
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Who else ? Max is actually Belgian , just like me .
Max was only 17 , and he didn't even had his (private) driver license ! But he won a F1 race ! Who did this before ? This never happened ever before in the F1 race history , and that's one of the reasons why Max is my favorite . What he showed last year in Brazil in the rain was beyond believe . Schumacher and Senna showed also some driver skills on the wet , but what Max showed in the rain was (no doubt) even from a higher level ! The greatests on earth said...It's on the wet where the driver skills really shine...And that we saw from Max ! And that's why , I can't wait to watch the next race *in the rain*
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That's why we can see all the smoke from hell coming from his brakes BEFORE the collision , and before he SLIDED into Max. You guys seem also to forget , that they came from the straight at topspeed and the apex was VERY NEAR (left 90° turn) was only 100 meters in front of them ! This was not the right place , and not the right moment to try something like an overtake ! *IF* Daniel could pass Max . He was not able to make it , at that speed through the left turn . AMEN !
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Remember last year , the race in Brazil (Interlagos) That was pretty wet !
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