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Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
Since my subs are firing up and open on top I did not use Dyna mat. I did carpet the box on all sides and also used spray glue to install a carpet liner under the box to help with vibrations between the box and the trunk. Sounds great and no real vibration noise from the box or bottom of trunk.
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So it's a bit off topic, but in terms of sound deadening for general quietness (not specifically for better music), wheel arches are where most of sound is coming in. Then doors.
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So it's a bit off topic, but in terms of sound deadening for general quietness (not specifically for better music), wheel arches are where most of sound is coming in. Then doors.
Somehow mines are from window glasses.
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So it's a bit off topic, but in terms of sound deadening for general quietness (not specifically for better music), wheel arches are where most of sound is coming in. Then doors.
Most of mine comes from the passenger seat...
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Somehow mines are from window glasses.
Sorry for not been clear, I meant from areas that can be improved by sound deadening materials (self adhesive mats). I wish we could change glass to double glass, but it's not feasible.
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Most of mine comes from the passenger seat...
That's something we have to live with. I love my wife too
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https://www.parts-express.com/sonic-...12-4---268-046

This is a cheap and good sound deadener.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?


I used regular tool box liner which was 10 bucks in Home Depot and it doesn't rattle at all. The only thing that might rattle is the clip that flips down when you close that compartment.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?


I used regular tool box liner which was 10 bucks in Home Depot and it doesn't rattle at all. The only thing that might rattle is the clip that flips down when you close that compartment.
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Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?


I used regular tool box liner which was 10 bucks in Home Depot and it doesn't rattle at all. The only thing that might rattle is the clip that flips down when you close that compartment.
What box did you use and how much room above before lid?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?


I used regular tool box liner which was 10 bucks in Home Depot and it doesn't rattle at all. The only thing that might rattle is the clip that flips down when you close that compartment.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
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Is this converter mandatory if adding a mono amp and sub? I was at a local car stereo shop today and they did not mention anything about a controller.

Really it is depending on the amp you have selected. Some amps have built in High Level inputs and crossovers. Therefore not necessary to have a separate one.
But.... the quality is usually not as good as some of the better aftermarkets ones. Just talk to you local stereo shop on your selections and if needed they will tell you as they want to charge for every little thing they can sell.
Thanks. I will get the details of sub and amp. They are going to build a custom box for the JL sub. I'm also thinking of lining the tire compartment with dynamat to help with rattle, etc. anyone else used soundproofing in the tire compartment area?


I used regular tool box liner which was 10 bucks in Home Depot and it doesn't rattle at all. The only thing that might rattle is the clip that flips down when you close that compartment.
What box did you use and how much room above before lid?
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_136112...112LG-TW3.html

And prob like 3inch after lid closed since you have 9in in total space
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The installer said that the sub I'm adding will tie into the same line/channel as the stock subs (under the seats), is that accurate or can they be totally separate? Regardless, if I have a bass nob will that just control the sub and not factory subs?
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The installer said that the sub I'm adding will tie into the same line/channel as the stock subs (under the seats), is that accurate or can they be totally separate? Regardless, if I have a bass nob will that just control the sub and not factory subs?
The line input to the new amp he is getting the signal from your stock floor subs. This is a normal approach most installers will do for all vehicles.

Its just a line in for that amp. It has no affect on your stock system. You can go a more expensive route and get a piece made exclusively for our vehicle that taps off the wiring harness to your stock amp... but really not necessary. What the installer is telling you will work fine and will not have any repercussions on your vehicle..

You will have complete control on the added subs with the new amp, its crossovers and gains. You will also be able to adjust on the fly if it has a remote knob.

I hope this answers your questions.
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The line input to the new amp he is getting the signal from your stock floor subs. This is a normal approach most installers will do for all vehicles.

Its just a line in for that amp. It has no affect on your stock system. You can go a more expensive route and get a piece made exclusively for our vehicle that taps off the wiring harness to your stock amp... but really not necessary. What the installer is telling you will work fine and will not have any repercussions on your vehicle..

You will have complete control on the added subs with the new amp, its crossovers and gains. You will also be able to adjust on the fly if it has a remote knob.

I hope this answers your questions.
Is there a line level in the cargo area already or does that need to be run from the head unit? I have the base level HIFI system, so not sure I even have a line level - let alone in the trunk. I was just reading up and realized I do have a powered sub laying around from an previous system that might fit perfectly into my spare tire well....... Hmmmmm
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Is there a line level in the cargo area already or does that need to be run from the head unit? I have the base level HIFI system, so not sure I even have a line level - let alone in the trunk. I was just reading up and realized I do have a powered sub laying around from an previous system that might fit perfectly into my spare tire well....... Hmmmmm
They will use the speaker leads from your speakers as a line level input. Since the speaker power is already coming from an amplifier they must either use a line output converter or an amplifier with high level inputs from the factory amp to your new amp. If the amp has a built in high level input you are fine. Same goes with your powered sub that's laying around. If it does not have high level inputs you must use a line output converter or LOC for short so you can run RCA cables into the new amp.
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Is there a line level in the cargo area already or does that need to be run from the head unit? I have the base level HIFI system, so not sure I even have a line level - let alone in the trunk. I was just reading up and realized I do have a powered sub laying around from an previous system that might fit perfectly into my spare tire well....... Hmmmmm
They will use the speaker leads from your speakers as a line level input. Since the speaker power is already coming from an amplifier they must either use a line output converter or an amplifier with high level inputs from the factory amp to your new amp. If the amp has a built in high level input you are fine. Same goes with your powered sub that's laying around. If it does not have high level inputs you must use a line output converter or LOC for short so you can run RCA cables into the new amp.
Are amps for all systems in the cargo area then?
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Are amps for all systems in the cargo area then?
Yes the one factory amp for the entire audio system is in the cargo area behind the panel rear drivers side where first aid lit and emergency triangle and cargo net are located.
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They will use the speaker leads from your speakers as a line level input. Since the speaker power is already coming from an amplifier they must either use a line output converter or an amplifier with high level inputs from the factory amp to your new amp. If the amp has a built in high level input you are fine. Same goes with your powered sub that's laying around. If it does not have high level inputs you must use a line output converter or LOC for short so you can run RCA cables into the new amp.
Excellent - nice to have everything in the trunk. I'll have to pull it out and look, but I believe it has line level and high level if I remember right. I was not sure if the signal from the HU came to the amp at line level and was 100% powered by the amp or if it came powered from the HU and the amp just juiced it up. Either way - sounds like I should have everything I need to connect back there and it would be an easy connect.

Thanks for the info!
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I'm installing a 12" sub (JL Audio CS112LG-TW3) to a JL Audio Amp (XD500/3v2) and the installer said I'm good to go, no other hardware pieces except the bass knob and cables. Apparently my amp can handle the high level inputs from stock amp. This amp also gives me a channel for the future if I want to upgrade my 4" speakers in the front.
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      12-14-2018, 03:55 PM   #195
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I'm installing a 12" sub (JL Audio CS112LG-TW3) to a JL Audio Amp (XD500/3v2) and the installer said I'm good to go, no other hardware pieces except the bass knob and cables. Apparently my amp can handle the high level inputs from stock amp. This amp also gives me a channel for the future if I want to upgrade my 4" speakers in the front.
you may want to double check that info; based on that amp's specs it supports:
high-level inputs — up to 8 volts RMS (about 16 watts)

I believe the BMW line is higher than 8 volts...but I'm not 100% sure;
on my car I installed a LOC just to be sure
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I'm installing a 12" sub (JL Audio CS112LG-TW3) to a JL Audio Amp (XD500/3v2) and the installer said I'm good to go, no other hardware pieces except the bass knob and cables. Apparently my amp can handle the high level inputs from stock amp. This amp also gives me a channel for the future if I want to upgrade my 4" speakers in the front.
you may want to double check that info; based on that amp's specs it supports:
high-level inputs — up to 8 volts RMS (about 16 watts)

I believe the BMW line is higher than 8 volts...but I'm not 100% sure;
on my car I installed a LOC just to be sure
here is the email I received from the guy I bought the harness from:

On Friday, October 5, 2018, 9:00:34 AM EDT, Elias Jones <TechnicPnP@hotmail.com> wrote:



Please select X5 (F15) -> Top HiFi(688) at main page of www.TechnicPnP.com for the selection of products for your particular BMW model and OEM audio system. 


A LOC is required as the OEM amp outputs 35V+ peaks at the woofer outputs. No JL Audio sub amp can handle such high level inputs - it will damage the aftermarket amp. 
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      12-14-2018, 07:09 PM   #197
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I'm installing a 12" sub (JL Audio CS112LG-TW3) to a JL Audio Amp (XD500/3v2) and the installer said I'm good to go, no other hardware pieces except the bass knob and cables. Apparently my amp can handle the high level inputs from stock amp. This amp also gives me a channel for the future if I want to upgrade my 4" speakers in the front.
Replacing the only the 4" won't do much. You need to replace the oem amp or change the cross over point to improve the sound. It's a lot more complicated then just adding an amp and replace 1 set of speakers.
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