Transmission Oil Change

[Franktea1$]

What model is this tranny pan out of? looks different than mine.

[Franktea1$]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

What model is this tranny pan out of? looks different than mine.

Originally Posted by DgjoX6M2016

Might be ok, but if what was removed was at a different temp to what went in there could be a quantity difference. This video was interesting demonstrating expansion.

He came up with 7.5% expansion across some extreme cold to hot. And he couldn't get it hot enough to replicate operating temp. Adds up in volume across 6,7,8 liters or whatever is in the ZF8HP. Wish there was a damn dip stick.

I did this the next morning car was cold, this is far from my first rodeo.
Have owned two other BMW's one i still have e39 540 sport 280k, only take it shop for tires and wheel alignment.

[Franktea1$]

All,

If you can change your engine oil, this is the same level of difficulty. I would not recommend any transmission waiting to 100k. I plan to do it once a year to keep clean as possible as its impossible to get it all out. This will keep it in good order.

Best,
Frank

[DgjoX6M2016]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

What model is this tranny pan out of? looks different than mine.

That's a 09 e91 with a GM 6 speed.

[DgjoX6M2016]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

All,

If you can change your engine oil, this is the same level of difficulty. I would not recommend any transmission waiting to 100k. I plan to do it once a year to keep as its impossible to get it all out. This will keep it in good order.

Best,
Frank

You are a better wrench than I am as all my ATF exchanges while doable, have been a PITA required managing temperature of ATF, ensuring car is dead level, and pumping ATF up and into transmission as there is no filler tube.

One of the biggest hassles on my other BMWs is access to the damn filler plug. Have had to drop exhaust hangars and the like. Maybe f86 has more room. Haven't been under mine yet.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by DgjoX6M2016

You are a better wrench than I am as all my ATF exchanges while doable, have been a PITA required managing temperature of ATF, ensuring car is dead level, and pumping ATF up and into transmission as there is no filler tube.

One of the biggest hassles on my other BMWs is access to the damn filler plug. Have had to drop exhaust hangars and the like. Maybe f86 has more room. Haven't been under mine yet.

It's still a bit of a PITA, only because last part of the fill procedure you have to be under truck while it's running but it's much easier on the F85/F86 then compared to cars. You only need to remove the 5 screws and drop the transmission protection plate to gain access.

I do HIGHLY recommend you get a power filler like I linked below. It's worth every penny and takes only seconds to fill the last 1.5 liters in while the engine is running, vs trying to operate a pump while crammed underneath.

Also recommend wrapping exhaust pipe next to fill port with an old towel, your arms flesh will thank you later.

I use 4 ramps and just drive right up all 4 at same time to save time and hassle on jacking up truck and guarantees it's perfectly level. It is very close clearance on stock M's so if you are lowered double check to make sure you can clear ramps in rear before buying them.

https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Produc.../dp/B00I6BG1KI

[DgjoX6M2016]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

It's still a bit of a PITA, only because last part of the fill procedure you have to be under truck while it's running but it's much easier on the F85/F86 then compared to cars. You only need to remove the 5 screws and drop the transmission protection plate to gain access.

I do HIGHLY recommend you get a power filler like I linked below. It's worth every penny and takes only seconds to fill the last 1.5 liters in while the engine is running, vs trying to operate a pump while crammed underneath.

Also recommend wrapping exhaust pipe next to fill port with an old towel, your arms flesh will thank you later.

I use 4 ramps and just drive right up all 4 at same time to save time and hassle on jacking up truck and guarantees it's perfectly level. It is very close clearance on stock M's so if you are lowered double check to make sure you can clear ramps in rear before buying them.

https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Produc.../dp/B00I6BG1KI

I have the Schwaben fluid pump and yes, it's a must or don't even try! Like the quad ramp idea.

[Yuille36]

I watched the video on youtube about changing your tranny fluid. My question is, does that kit come with the transmission filter, since our pans are aluminum and the ones featured in the video are either plastic or graphite and has the filter made into them. I'm looking to have my transmission along with the transfer case changed soon. In my E63 AMG the kit comes with it's one filter and O-Ring that push into place, and then bolt up the pan with new mounting bolts. I'm pretty sure that BMW is the same, or is the new pans plastic?

[Franktea1$]

Originally Posted by Yuille36

I watched the video on youtube about changing your tranny fluid. My question is, does that kit come with the transmission filter, since our pans are aluminum and the ones featured in the video are either plastic or graphite and has the filter made into them. I'm looking to have my transmission along with the transfer case changed soon. In my E63 AMG the kit comes with it's one filter and O-Ring that push into place, and then bolt up the pan with new mounting bolts. I'm pretty sure that BMW is the same, or is the new pans plastic?

I had ordered the kit from FCP Euro, it did come with the plastic pan so I opted just to swap the oil. I think you would have to contact BMW to get the factory pan.

[Franktea1$]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

It's still a bit of a PITA, only because last part of the fill procedure you have to be under truck while it's running but it's much easier on the F85/F86 then compared to cars. You only need to remove the 5 screws and drop the transmission protection plate to gain access.

I do HIGHLY recommend you get a power filler like I linked below. It's worth every penny and takes only seconds to fill the last 1.5 liters in while the engine is running, vs trying to operate a pump while crammed underneath.

Also recommend wrapping exhaust pipe next to fill port with an old towel, your arms flesh will thank you later.

I use 4 ramps and just drive right up all 4 at same time to save time and hassle on jacking up truck and guarantees it's perfectly level. It is very close clearance on stock M's so if you are lowered double check to make sure you can clear ramps in rear before buying them.

https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Produc.../dp/B00I6BG1KI

Curious what make and model ramps do you use?

[NikNala]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

I had ordered the kit from FCP Euro, it did come with the plastic pan so I opted just to swap the oil. I think you would have to contact BMW to get the factory pan.

You don't need to get a pan just the right kit.

#3 in the diagram
https://www.bmwpartsdeal.com/parts/b...007855263.html

BMW part number 24007855263

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

Curious what make and model ramps do you use?

I use the low profile Rhino ramps (link below). They are 8.5 inches tall so double check you have enough clearance if you are lowered/run different then stock wheels.

Also this probably seems obvious but never try to go up 4 ramps at same time if you have 4x4 errors....I did one time when I still had the fuse pulled for the transfer case and hilarity ensued as only the rear tires went up the ramps while the front just pushed the front ramps

https://www.amazon.com/RhinoGear-119...x=rhino&sr=8-3

[Franktea1$]

Originally Posted by NikNala

You don't need to get a pan just the right kit.

#3 in the diagram
https://www.bmwpartsdeal.com/parts/b...007855263.html

BMW part number 24007855263

Cool thanks I'll use it next time.

[Franktea1$]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

I use the low profile Rhino ramps (link below). They are 8.5 inches tall so double check you have enough clearance if you are lowered/run different then stock wheels.

Also this probably seems obvious but never try to go up 4 ramps at same time if you have 4x4 errors....I did one time when I still had the fuse pulled for the transfer case and hilarity ensued as only the rear tires went up the ramps while the front just pushed the front ramps

https://www.amazon.com/RhinoGear-119...x=rhino&sr=8-3

I actually have a pair of these, didn't trust plastic with 5500 pounds above me. Guess you could always add jack stands. Whats nice about the ramps you dont need to remove the front cover to get the car off the ground.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

I actually have a pair of these, didn't trust plastic with 5500 pounds above me. Guess you could always add jack stands. Whats nice about the ramps you dont need to remove the front cover to get the car off the ground.

Ya I was a little concerned too at first but rest assured they are Rock solid. I had mine on them for three weeks straight once while I worked on and off on the exhaust system. No signs of any type of wear or warpage and overall I have used them more then a dozen times.

[musa]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

Ya I was a little concerned too at first but rest assured they are Rock solid. I had mine on them for three weeks straight once while I worked on and off on the exhaust system. No signs of any type of wear or warpage and overall I have used them more then a dozen times.

The reviews are really scary though - several people nearly got killed by the ramps bulking .

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by musa

The reviews are really scary though - several people nearly got killed by the ramps bulking .

There are some scary ones up there but it still 4.6 stars out of 5 with over 6,400+ reviews. With that being said, I think it's wise to always use jack stands after it's up on the ramps as a safety no mater what brand you go with.

[Yuille36]

Originally Posted by NikNala

You don't need to get a pan just the right kit.

#3 in the diagram
https://www.bmwpartsdeal.com/parts/b...007855263.html

BMW part number 24007855263

Thanks

[musa]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

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With that being said, I think it's wise to always use jack stands after it's up on the ramps as a safety no mater what brand you go with.

Totally, as depicted in this pic. Nonetheless, I'd opt for the solid steel version of these ramps as an additional safety measure.

[Yuille36]

Originally Posted by Franktea1$

Cool thanks I'll use it next time.

I ordered that part, only to be told by BMWPartsDeal, that this part is no longer offered, and they refunded me my money.

[Yuille36]

Does anyone have the part # for the transmission oil filter and gasket. I've been searching online but couldn't find one either from Pelican Parts or FCP Euro?

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by Yuille36

Does anyone have the part # for the transmission oil filter and gasket. I've been searching online but couldn't find one either from Pelican Parts or FCP Euro?

Try Northwest BMW or ECS, they show they have it:

https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/p/BMW...007855263.html

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...f/24007855263/