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View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump be Impeached or will this blowback on Biden
Orange Trump bad. Trump gone. 44 27.85%
Trump Trump-umphant. 56 35.44%
Inclusive 13 8.23%
Biden C4'd to oblivion. 48 30.38%
Biden grows in strength and gets shot in the arm for nomination. 8 5.06%
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      Yesterday, 09:18 PM   #2377
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Absolutely a smart move! Considering there are far too many dumbasses, particularly the "uneducated voters" Trump loves and cherishes (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ated/80860078/) to comprehend a latin term such as: Quid Pro Quo.
Keep it simple and dummy-proof for the masses. And also continue to highlight the fact that it is an Impeachable offense.
While attempting to ridicule, the sequence has escaped you. You'll get it eventually.
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Folks wrongfully accused have plenty to worry about. Litigation is often used as a means of intimidation and a way to bankrupt innocent people. A good legal defense is incredibly expensive, not to mention the toll it can take on a person and their families emotionally. The specter of huge fines/possible imprisonment can takes years off anybody's life.

Besides, aren't the lefties always the ones screaming the courts are corrupt against certain classes of people in this country? Pick a side and stick with it please.
For once we agree.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-house-227036
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It sucks, I always shudder when I see that justice is blind statue. Nothing could be farther from the truth in this country. It's a sick joke really.
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The two Windbags witnesses, Kent and Taylor dont like Trump's policy with Ukraine, resign, it's not their call!
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The two Windbags witnesses, Kent and Taylor dont like Trump's policy with Ukraine, resign, it's not their call!
and also Trump doesn't wear tweed jackets or bow ties so he should just butt out of foreign policy.
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The two Windbags witnesses, Kent and Taylor dont like Trump's policy with Ukraine, resign, it's not their call!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trump_administration_dismissals_and_resign ations

It's their responsibility to protect the United States of America... Not Drump.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trump_administration_dismissals_and_resign ations

It's their responsibility to protect the United States of America... Not Drump.
Wrong, it's their responsibility to follow the voters and the voters elected Trump. If they don't want to follow the policies of the man the voters elected, then they resign. It's that simple.
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Fyi we have people actually convicted in Ukraine for this stuff, if that not enough probable cause for you then nothing will be enough. Meanwhile Orange man bad hear say is enough probable cause!
"People actually convicted in the Ukraine" for what stuff, specifically?

That there is rampant corruption in Ukraine is not in question.
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just to clarify: my response to RD's post (shown below) was prompted by his opening remark to the effect that we don't like "fact check". in support of that idiotic statement RD supplied a link to an article that contained no facts much less checks of anything.
the very first sentence of the linked article included the phrase "...Republicans pressed the discredited theory.."
oh really? so how, exactly, was this theory "discredited"? who did this investigation and when?
in the spirit of informed debate I merely invited RD (or anyone else who cared to butt in) to supply a link, or even a name to facilitate further research into this investigation.
I'm just curious as to how something, in your view, actually gets to be "discredited", or "debunked" or whatever tf the current debate-ending buzzword is.
didn't get any answers, although it quickly became clear that you guys don't want Ukraine looked at.
ever.
nothing to see here folks....
move along....
Wrong. At least when it comes to me - "look at" Ukraine as much as is in the US national interest. I'm all for it.

I didn't write that article, but I have to assume "discredited" in this case means "no evidence to suggest it's true".

Not every single accusation is deserving of a full on investigation by authorities, I assume we agree on that front?
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Thoughtful people of all political inclinations like facts. Facts are our friends. But we know the clear difference between actual verifiable facts, and non-facts that are slipped into the discourse with telltale tags like "theory," "may have been," "reportedly," and "allegedly" and mysterious origins like "a source close to the investigation" or "speaking on condition of anonymity."
While I agree that it's frustrating, there are innumerable times that "anonymous sources" are demonstrated to be correct.

Dismissing them out of hand is the opposite of seeking fact, IMO. Neither should we accept them as gospel, obviously.
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What is Trump being impeached for?
Nothing, yet. Maybe read some news on the subject if you're actually interested?
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so now we know where Tx has been, must have taken the lad hours to compose that pearl.
Pot, kettle.

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That was wrong, too.

And?
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Not at all, I also thought Obama was right. If Congress is able to subpoena the president then separation of powers is history.
As much as I detest Ben Rhodes he was not worth enfeebling the Constitution.
You could just as easily argue that Executive privilege neuters the oversight ability of Congress, rendering them less than co-equal.
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Dumbest statement I have heard on this board for a while.
Well, TX certainly isn't alone in that sentiment:

"The mob takes the Fifth Amendment," Trump said at a campaign event in Iowa later that month. "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"

President Trump's mouth - the gift that keeps on giving....
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Folks wrongfully accused have plenty to worry about. Litigation is often used as a means of intimidation and a way to bankrupt innocent people. A good legal defense is incredibly expensive, not to mention the toll it can take on a person and their families emotionally. The specter of huge fines/possible imprisonment can takes years off anybody's life...
Yep. In fact, John Oliver had a great/troublesome segment on SLAPP lawsuits last week.
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