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      01-03-2017, 03:46 PM   #23
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How much power is added with stage 2 + intake at the lower RPMs compared to stage 1? That's where I feel the X5M is really sluggish, even with Stage 1. In daily driving, that's where I feel like I need more power, because the transmissions likes to keep the RPMs low.

Also, if I already have the stage 2, will I need to change the Dinantronics box?
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How much power is added with stage 2 + intake at the lower RPMs compared to stage 1? That's where I feel the X5M is really sluggish, even with Stage 1. In daily driving, that's where I feel like I need more power, because the transmissions likes to keep the RPMs low.

Also, if I already have the stage 2, will I need to change the Dinantronics box?
The large power gains with stage 2 are above 5000 RPM but below that there is a consistent 10-15 HP and about 20 TRQ increase over stage 1. You can compare the 2 graphs directly on the website and the product pages if desired.
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Is it possible for you to supply the shipping weight and dimensions of the box?
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so a stock vehicle would need the intake + stage 2? no need to buy stage 1 and then stage 2, it's just a different version of software/mapping on the tuner device?
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      01-04-2017, 05:55 PM   #28
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so a stock vehicle would need the intake + stage 2? no need to buy stage 1 and then stage 2, it's just a different version of software/mapping on the tuner device?
Correct. If you had stage 1 you could update your existing box to stage 2 for the cost difference between stages.
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I wish you guys would measure your HP gains at the wheels rather than crank. Just seems to inflate the actual gains you are getting when measured at the crank. Obviously a 15% gain sounds better than a 5% gain though.
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I wish you guys would measure your HP gains at the wheels rather than crank. Just seems to inflate the actual gains you are getting when measured at the crank. Obviously a 15% gain sounds better than a 5% gain though.
Dinan measures the HP and torque of the stock car on their engine dyno (crank) as baseline as well so their % gains are calculated correctly. The delta, whether you're measuring it at the crank or wheels, sound be the same and not inflated as long as you're comparing both wheel or crank numbers.
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Complete waste of money lol. Yes the hardware they make is nice, but nowhere worth what they charge.

And many tuners can hit 700hp just on a stage 1 flash tune without bolt-ons. I don't know why ppl throw away their money at Dinan
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Now to wait on someone to test fit it on a 50i
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Its not as easy as just adding the numbers together. Peak gains and max gains don't always occur at the same RPM. In this case Peak numbers occurs at ~6000 RPM. Max HP gain over stock is also at that location. However the max HP gain over stage 1 (whats quoted) occurs in the 4000-4250 RPM range.

Stage 2 does not require the intake or the exhaust technically but if you want to get the quoted power gains you would want the intake and tune. The exahust for all practical purposes is just a sound improvement. The power gained from it is all at the upper part of the RPM register. Would work for all exhausts as well, no matter the brand, and not need any specific adjustments. The exception would be if the exhaust removed the CAT's in which case it would result in a CEL which the system does not correct for (emissions legality) nor optimize for.



The aim with the turbo engines with all successive stages is to "flip the tip" of the upper HP curve so that instead of falling off at peak it continues to pull all the way to redline. This usually means having varying amounts at boost at the various loads in order to achieve that.
Do you have any data to show how faster the car can go (1/4 mile or 0-60) compare to the stock car? Can't wait to see the result. I believe it must be about half a second faster
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Dinan F85 X5M / F86 X6M Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake

Part Number: D760-0047
Applications: 2015+ F85 X5M SAV, 2015+ F85 X5M SAV
Release Date: Today, December 29th, 2016. Please see note below for details.

Description: 'Striking' is the first word that comes to mind when you pop the hood of a F8x X5M/X6M with a Dinan carbon fiber cold air intake system. The under hood appearance is completely changed and set off by intricate carbon detailing that make the engine compartment just as flattering as the sleek exterior lines the vehicle possesses. While the aesthetics are the most recognizable change to the system what is more impressive is the functionality that lies beneath the carbon fiber lid.

The care that went into the filter design is what makes the system function as well as it does. The stock filters are restrictive with only a minuscule 89in² in total filter area. The stock filters also only allow air to be drawn in from the front and rear instead of around the entire surface area. Dinan's custom filters on the other hand eliminate this wasted area and allow air to be drawn in from all around and increase the total filter area to 292.4in². That's an unheard of 228% increase in filter area over the stock setup. In order to accommodate these massive filters the stock lid needed to be enlarged as much as the hood clearance would allow. This gave us the opportunity to implement it's signature carbon fiber look and appeal while also increasing the overall volume of the air box by ~15%. The increased volume of the air box allows the larger filters to ingest more air at any given moment and elicit a slightly more audible and sporty tone over its stock counterpart. This optimized design yields increased HP/TRQ throughout the power band and shows consistent gains over stage 1 when combined with the stage 2 DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner.

Benefits of the Dinan Carbon Fiber High Flow Air Intake for the BMW F85 X5M and F86 X6M:
  • More Power: Max gains of 23 HP @ 5500 RPM and 25 lb-ft of torque @ 4000 RPM when combined with the Stage 2 DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner and exhaust over stage 1 tuning.
  • Sportier Sound
  • Improved throttle response
  • ~15% Larger volume air box via a Carbon Fiber lid that allows for the spacing needed for the larger filters.
  • 228% increase in filter area (stock: 44.5in² each, Dinan: 146.2in² each)
  • Dinan filters draw air in from all around versus the stock filters which only draw from the front and back of the filter.
  • Bolt-on installation

Please Note: Due to limited production capacity the F85/F86 X5M/X6M carbon fiber cold air intake is highly susceptible to back orders.

After months of production issues instead of delaying launch any further waiting for stock to build up we are releasing the product knowing full well we be in an instant back-order situation. Our estimated back order timeline is 4-6 weeks shortly after launch.


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Dinan F85 X5M / F86 X6M DINANTRONICS Stage 2

Part Number: D440-0047-ST2
Applications: 2015+ F85 X5M SAV, 2015+ F85 X5M SAV
Release Date: Today, December 29th, 2016.
Product Page - Details /Additional Photos / Pricing: http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...ries&mid=1241/

Description:The baddest SAV on the market is about to set the bar even higher!

With the release of the cold air intake for the F85/F86 X5M/X6M platform the engine can realize more power by virtue of greater air flow. Particularly effective in the upper RPM range where horsepower and torque typically fall off, stage 2 with the Dinan carbon fiber cold air intake holds the power much more effectively for longer lasting enjoyment. With a bump in power of up to 23 HP and 25 lb-ft of torque over stage 1, the combination sets this versatile vehicle further ahead of its competitors.

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I like that DINAN is offered by BMW dealers and is covered under dealer warranty in Canada.

1 - The software is great.
2 - Their exhaust on the M4 at least rattle with broken welds.
3 - Their wheels lack imagination and purpose.
4 - I would be very skeptical about their suspension - you have Ohlin which is as good as it gets.

So for 2k in software and 700 hp with dealer warranty. You can't go wrong. The rest well its up to you if you want to uglify your ride.
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Complete waste of money lol. Yes the hardware they make is nice, but nowhere worth what they charge.

And many tuners can hit 700hp just on a stage 1 flash tune without bolt-ons. I don't know why ppl throw away their money at Dinan
I really don't know why people like you feel the need to come in just to bash on Dinan. Clearly if you are in these forums you are aware of what other tuners can do with different platforms. It's easy to extract a ton of power from these cars without placing a warranty behind it. People choose different tunes for different reasons and I don't know people just can't grasp that simple concept. Thanks for your input though!
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It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Considering nobody else makes an intake for this car I think the price is fair. Look at what some other tuners are charging for intakes for other M cars and this is considered cheap.

I didn't get it for power. I got it for sound and any extra power gained is just a plus.

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It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Considering nobody else makes an intake for this car I think the price is fair. Look at what some other tuners are charging for intakes for other M cars and this is considered cheap.

I didn't get it for power. I got it for sound and any extra power gained is just a plus.

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