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      04-17-2019, 12:40 PM   #23
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Thank for reply., my build date is Oct/2015, and I think I have NBT, and not EVO for sure. The ebay-seller looks good just wondering about the CAN filter, and other parts needed. I also have E-SYS software and have done some coding before but this is a big job, might be too much for you but would be good if you can post a DIY guide?
If coming from NBT, ask Seth Wilkins - they ebay seller selling the HU about any ATMs he has to sell first. Then chat with this guy about wiring
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-F-SERIE...53.m2749.l2649

This wiring loom works as long as you don't have to upgrade the software on your NBT HU. Its fully plug and play with an ATM and you will get connecteddrive services etc like RTTI. Looks like the seller updated the wiring to work with software upgrades too.

If you don't get an ATM, you can get a GPS emulator or wait till you find one.

If you are on NBT, this isn't easy. Most of it is documented in parts everywhere and depends on the situation, so a DIY isn't going to help much.
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Dumb question but how do I know which head unit I currently have? Build date is 04/2016.
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@sj22 i recently did an nbt evo retrofit thru bimmertech using an atm emulator. Yes it sucks we dont have connected drive service working. Are you saying if i source an NA ATM, and the CAN wiring from ebay, its possible to have connected drive working?
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@sj22 i recently did an nbt evo retrofit thru bimmertech using an atm emulator. Yes it sucks we dont have connected drive service working. Are you saying if i source an NA ATM, and the CAN wiring from ebay, its possible to have connected drive working?
See my reply to your pm. Absolutely. The only things that arent working for me is lock/unlock from iphone and send to car. Everything else works.
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@sj22 i recently did an nbt evo retrofit thru bimmertech using an atm emulator. Yes it sucks we dont have connected drive service working. Are you saying if i source an NA ATM, and the CAN wiring from ebay, its possible to have connected drive working?
See my reply to your pm. Absolutely. The only things that arent working for me is lock/unlock from iphone and send to car. Everything else works.
Where did you get all this to do it ? I'm interested in doing this as a retrofit
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      05-28-2019, 10:45 PM   #28
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You need also to program the donnor ATM with a VIN of a car with active CD subscription.
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      05-29-2019, 12:53 AM   #29
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You need also to program the donnor ATM with a VIN of a car with active CD subscription.
You meant code the nbt hu with the donor atm vin with active cd subscription.


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Where did you get all this to do it ? I'm interested in doing this as a retrofit
There are just 2 big parts- the donor Hu and the donor atm. Once you get those, rest is relatively easier. Tons of people on the F30 threads doing this.
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Is there some kind like a DIY on how to do this retrofit and a list of everything needed. I would like to do this. I am reasonably mechanically inclined. If I could do this myself (Except Programming) it would be awesome.
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
ATM is basically a connection module, housing GPS unit BT/4G etc, the updated version of iDrive ie 5/6 requires this unit to be changed out for compatibility. I believe BMW phased out ATM in 2016 or end of.


https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/ite...trofit-carplay

From what I understand, anyone looking to retrofit updated HU/iDrive from 4, needs to either source a new Telematics module or emulate.
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ATM is basically a connection module, housing GPS unit BT/4G etc, the updated version of iDrive ie 5/6 requires this unit to be changed out for compatibility. I believe BMW phased out ATM in 2016 or end of.


https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/ite...trofit-carplay

From what I understand, anyone looking to retrofit updated HU/iDrive from 4, needs to either source a new Telematics module or emulate.

Cool, thanks for the info.
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
Hmm Money machine is not where my mind went first...dang it. Time to go back to church.
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
Hmm Money machine is not where my mind went first...dang it. Time to go back to church.
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
ATM is the newer telecommunication module that came with NBT evo. It is also the GPS source for NBT evo if you have the north american version. It has a sim card and a vin programmed and those cannot be changed.

NBT used TCB modules for data so they cannot be used.

May I suggest buying a full kit and doing the install from bimmerretrofit/codemybimmer or one of the big vendors who collect all the right stuff and then just ship it to you? It may be only $300-$500 more but you will get everything that you know will work together.
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
ATM is the newer telecommunication module that came with NBT evo. It is also the GPS source for NBT evo if you have the north american version. It has a sim card and a vin programmed and those cannot be changed.

NBT used TCB modules for data so they cannot be used.

May I suggest buying a full kit and doing the install from bimmerretrofit/codemybimmer or one of the big vendors who collect all the right stuff and then just ship it to you? It may be only $300-$500 more but you will get everything that you know will work together.
I noticed my car has wlan but wants me to subscribe to a data plan. Any way to make it use the existing data plan on my phone? Can I tether my my phone data to the wlan ?
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Silly question.... But what is an ATM? The ATM I know gives you money when you stick your card in it!!!
ATM is the newer telecommunication module that came with NBT evo. It is also the GPS source for NBT evo if you have the north american version. It has a sim card and a vin programmed and those cannot be changed.

NBT used TCB modules for data so they cannot be used.

May I suggest buying a full kit and doing the install from bimmerretrofit/codemybimmer or one of the big vendors who collect all the right stuff and then just ship it to you? It may be only $300-$500 more but you will get everything that you know will work together.
I noticed my car has wlan but wants me to subscribe to a data plan. Any way to make it use the existing data plan on my phone? Can I tether my my phone data to the wlan ?
By tether do you mean hotspot from your phone? I don't think so as it collects data from 4G and spits out WiFi. Theoretically you should be able to add to your existing data plan like a smart watch etc but knowing BMW you probably have to purchase through them at a massive price hike.
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I noticed my car has wlan but wants me to subscribe to a data plan. Any way to make it use the existing data plan on my phone? Can I tether my my phone data to the wlan ?
Why would you tether the phone date to the wlan? For other devices in the car? You can do it straight from the phone to those devices...

If you want a dedicated wlan hotspot, bmw sells one that fits in the snap-in connector in the central console...
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I noticed my car has wlan but wants me to subscribe to a data plan. Any way to make it use the existing data plan on my phone? Can I tether my my phone data to the wlan ?
Why would you tether the phone date to the wlan? For other devices in the car? You can do it straight from the phone to those devices...

If you want a dedicated wlan hotspot, bmw sells one that fits in the snap-in connector in the central console...
Yes but Att wants to charge me to tether. Thought there would be an easy way with bmw wlan 😜
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Yes but Att wants to charge me to tether. Thought there would be an easy way with bmw wlan 😜
Two different things you are asking:
If ATT on your phone is asking you for $ to allow tethering to share your data with your car, its upto you. You can "program" the car to use bluetooth data from your phone for some things.

If ATT is asking you $ to share the data from your car, its upto you. The WLAN service with some new bmws is quite good. But unnecessary for most unless you have wifi only entertainment devices in the back and want to play youtube on them. WLAN is separate from connecteddrive and I think are renewed as separate services.
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Yes but Att wants to charge me to tether. Thought there would be an easy way with bmw wlan 😜
Two different things you are asking:
If ATT on your phone is asking you for $ to allow tethering to share your data with your car, its upto you. You can "program" the car to use bluetooth data from your phone for some things.

If ATT is asking you $ to share the data from your car, its upto you. The WLAN service with some new bmws is quite good. But unnecessary for most unless you have wifi only entertainment devices in the back and want to play youtube on them. WLAN is separate from connecteddrive and I think are renewed as separate services.
Yes sorry for the confusion 😜

1. I'm aware of oem wlan with Verizon data but bmw wants to charge me to use it. So I'll pass.

2. I wanted to know if there's a way to use the data I'm already paying on iphone ATT to be used on the bmw wlan. Not sure it's even possible.

3. Yes I can turn in the tether option on iphone so kids can use there iPads in there car, but I'm too cheap 😝
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The snap-in wlan option as well as the integrated hot-spot subscription in CD have 1 advantage: the network reception is better compared to the phone, as it uses the external car antenna.
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Ok guys, just wanted to post an update. I ended up downgrading the idrive on the retrofitted NBT evo to 18-03 and now everything including connecteddrive, send to car, remote ventilation etc. is working like OEM. It even allowed me to renew them or buy additional stuff.

In terms of technical detail: it needed an ECU upgrade/downgrade with the correct vin selected during TAL processing. Not a VIN change with FSC after flashing.

Also was able to use a 25A continous charger w/o any issues.
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