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      01-19-2020, 08:20 AM   #1
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Found right rear suspension out of air. Right on cue?! Lol. I noticed the left rear low a week or so ago as well. Likelihood of both failing at same time seems remote. Perhaps not the air bags but a controller or something. I will check if any ECU codes. I included a pic of the LR as well which was really high as a result of the RR dropping.
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Thankfully CPO until end of this year!
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Thankfully CPO until end of this year!
Oh you straight then but eventually they will call and your pockets must pick up 🤣
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Theres factors when it comes to getting covered with cpo or extended warranty for sagging air suspension as most dealers won't cover if sagging is caused by a tear on the bag but will cover if the air compressor itself or other related components are faulty. If they agree to cover a damaged bag after factory warranty has expired its out of good will this is something Ive asked specifically with BMWNA before I purchased my platinum extended coverage and Im guessing it would apply for CPO as well. A bottle of wine during your visit may come along way

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WHAT IS NOT COVERED
The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Protection Plan and the BMW Certified Elite Protection Plan provide specific
coverage against defects in materials and workmanship. There are various items that are not covered by these
warranties for enrolled vehicles retailed on or after January 1, 2014.

Suspension
Ball joints; bushings; center tie rod; coil springs – sagging (except for leveling system pneumatic/hydraulic springs);
control arms and brackets; idler and pitman arms; stabilizer bar links and supports; strut elements/shock absorbers
(dampers); tie rod ends and adjusting sleeves; trailing arms, thrust struts; wishbones.

Good news is he got covered but doesn't mention the actual cause

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Theres factors when it comes to getting covered with cpo or extended warranty for sagging air suspension as most dealers won't cover if sagging is caused by a tear on the bag but will cover if the air compressor itself or other related components are faulty. If they agree to cover a damaged bag after factory warranty has expired its out of good will this is something Ive asked specifically with BMWNA before I purchased my platinum extended coverage and Im guessing it would apply for CPO as well. A bottle of wine during your visit may come along way

EDIT: found this from StatenEye 's thread

WHAT IS NOT COVERED
The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Protection Plan and the BMW Certified Elite Protection Plan provide specific
coverage against defects in materials and workmanship. There are various items that are not covered by these
warranties for enrolled vehicles retailed on or after January 1, 2014.

Suspension
Ball joints; bushings; center tie rod; coil springs – sagging (except for leveling system pneumatic/hydraulic springs);
control arms and brackets; idler and pitman arms; stabilizer bar links and supports; strut elements/shock absorbers
(dampers); tie rod ends and adjusting sleeves; trailing arms, thrust struts; wishbones.

Good news is he got covered but doesn't mention the actual cause
Thanks for that reference. I'm an insurance professional so the leveling units are an exception to an exclusion (sagging) therefore should be covered under CPO. Wasn't too worried either way as I see BMW has separate bellows for easy replacement.

My Mercedes GL seems to have something more like one piece bellows/strut, which is a bigger deal.
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Thanks for that reference. I'm an insurance professional so the leveling units are an exception to an exclusion (sagging) therefore should be covered under CPO. Wasn't too worried either way as I see BMW has separate bellows for easy replacement.

My Mercedes GL seems to have something more like one piece bellows/strut, which is a bigger deal.
They said the airbag was leaking so I'm guessing a crack or hole. Something like that. Wasn't the compressor or lines. I paid the deductible only. My rear suspension actually is sagging on my F85 now lol. This happened after installing the VTFs. Ill have to replace those after the winter.
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Thanks for that reference. I'm an insurance professional so the leveling units are an exception to an exclusion (sagging) therefore should be covered under CPO. Wasn't too worried either way as I see BMW has separate bellows for easy replacement.

My Mercedes GL seems to have something more like one piece bellows/strut, which is a bigger deal.
They said the airbag was leaking so I'm guessing a crack or hole. Something like that. Wasn't the compressor or lines. I paid the deductible only. My rear suspension actually is sagging on my F85 now lol. This happened after installing the VTFs. Ill have to replace those after the winter.
I think our wonderful winters expose cracks in the air bags.

Mine sounds same. Car pumps up when started.
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It's either bad bag or compressor leakage. Compressor is under passenger side rocker. Arnott makes replacement bags. Coil over are ridiculous priced. Pick your poison or trade her in!!
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RR air suspension being replaced and they are checking for sag overnight. If one bag goes, the entire system loses pressure, and both will sag. Also making sure no other system air leaks. So far so good.
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All fixed. BMW West Springfield did great job.

-RR air suspension bladder replaced (CPO)
-Oil change (MP)
-Brake fluid exchange (MP)
-Re torqued front calipers/brake check (Courtesy)
-Driver door gasket replaced as torn (CPO)
-Wipers (MP)

1.5 day, x5 loaner. Solid experience.

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I, too, just suffered from rear suspension sag. Both rear air bags had pinholes causing the air to leak. The air bags would fill with air after opening a door or starting the motor, but would intermittently leak and cause the rear to sag after the car was parked. The dealer replaced both rear air bags.
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Looks like the OEM air spring from FCP Euro and their lifetime warranty is the way to go in the future and the DIY instructions look pretty straight forward.

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It's either bad bag or compressor leakage. Compressor is under passenger side rocker. Arnott makes replacement bags. Coil over are ridiculous priced. Pick your poison or trade her in!!
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Can anyone confirm that the F15 air suspension uses the same parts as the F85? I just purchased Arnott A-2642. The Arnott rep wasn't 100% sure if this part would fit the F85. However, the FCP Euro site does say this part fits.

Getting them replaced on Friday and the last thing I want to do is spend a total of 1.5 hours driving to and from the shop and not have the right parts.

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Can anyone confirm that the F15 air suspension uses the same parts as the F85? I just purchased Arnott A-2642. The Arnott rep wasn't 100% sure if this part would fit the F85. However, the FCP Euro site does say this part fits.

Getting them replaced on Friday and the last thing I want to do is spend a total of 1.5 hours driving to and from the shop and not have the right parts.

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Here are replacement parts for my right air bag per the dealership invoice if that helps.
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Just posted in another post about good priced air bags and I have just checked and the f15 and f85 have different oem part numbers if that helps
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Can anyone confirm that the F15 air suspension uses the same parts as the F85? I just purchased Arnott A-2642. The Arnott rep wasn't 100% sure if this part would fit the F85. However, the FCP Euro site does say this part fits.

Getting them replaced on Friday and the last thing I want to do is spend a total of 1.5 hours driving to and from the shop and not have the right parts.

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Here are replacement parts for my right air bag per the dealership invoice if that helps.
Thanks for posting.
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Can anyone confirm that the F15 air suspension uses the same parts as the F85? I just purchased Arnott A-2642. The Arnott rep wasn't 100% sure if this part would fit the F85. However, the FCP Euro site does say this part fits.

Getting them replaced on Friday and the last thing I want to do is spend a total of 1.5 hours driving to and from the shop and not have the right parts.

Thanks!
Here are replacement parts for my right air bag per the dealership invoice if that helps.
Thanks for posting.
No problem. That's what the community is for!
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In case anyone was curious, I went with aftermarket air bags and they seem to be great so far.
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LR air suspension next...

As I suspected the LR wasn't too far behind RR. When one goes, the other can't be far behind. Will wait until things settle down from COVID.
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In case anyone was curious, I went with aftermarket air bags and they seem to be great so far.
Hey which bags did you use?
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Funny, I came out Sunday morning and had a slight panic ( lol ) because the rear was sagging like yours. Turned her on and got out to watch her inflate again. Cool. Haven't driven her in a week so I guess its expected.
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