Oil. My head is spinning

artem123 · 08-14-2019, 09:10 AM

I literally can't handle it anymore))) After free maintenance stopped, i need to change the oil. To my surprise, there is a label SAE 0w 30 under my hood. Can't miss it it is big))) Is Mobile 1 0w30 ESP going to work? I purchased it and suddenly become very anxious))
I know it has been covered multiple times....
2017 3.5 xdrive gas

pwrdbym · 08-14-2019, 10:24 AM

It will be fine, the ow30 viscosity is what you're most concerned with. The other labels on oils have to do with the additives. "high mileage, emission protection, etc".

artem123 · 08-14-2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pwrdbym

It will be fine, the ow30 viscosity is what you're most concerned with. The other labels on oils have to do with the additives. "high mileage, emission protection, etc".

What bothered me is the fact that BMW dropped Mobile 1 as recommended oil, and even on Mobile 1 site there is no approval for BMW.

menelaos · 08-14-2019, 12:15 PM

I used 0W-40 for a certain stretch, till an oil leak which forced me to take it to an Indy shop. I was advised to start using 5W-30 as 0W-40 was too "thin".

Maverik259 · 08-14-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by artem123

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Originally Posted by pwrdbym

It will be fine, the ow30 viscosity is what you're most concerned with. The other labels on oils have to do with the additives. "high mileage, emission protection, etc".

What bothered me is the fact that BMW dropped Mobile 1 as recommended oil, and even on Mobile 1 site there is no approval for BMW.

What's the confusion? Whether to use 0w-30 or Mobil 1?

Ive been using 0w-40 on both my AMG and my 50i with no issues. But I had like 8 spare bottles and just used the last on my last change. Next I'll be moving to Castrol as it still meets BMW certification.

Nothings going to happen to your car if you use Mobil 1. They just recently changed their formula and it doesn't meet BMW criteria. There's articles and threads on here discussing this.

As far as weight 5w-30, 0w-40, are fine. Good rule is thicker in the summer and thinner in the winter.

turboawd · 08-14-2019, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by menelaos

I used 0W-40 for a certain stretch, till an oil leak which forced me to take it to an Indy shop. I was advised to start using 5W-30 as 0W-40 was too "thin".

5w-30 is thinner than 0w-40

menelaos · 08-15-2019, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by turboawd

5w-30 is thinner than 0w-40

My bad, you're right. They did recommend 5w-30 though.

artem123 · 08-15-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by turboawd

5w-30 is thinner than 0w-40

Yes.

pwrdbym · 08-15-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by turboawd

5w-30 is thinner than 0w-40

Well yes and no. The first number is the viscosity not at operating temp (cold start), the second is the viscosity at operating temp.
Those in milder climates can easily get away with 5w30 and may even consider 5w40 for hot climates.

TheUltimateDrivingManiac · 08-15-2019, 05:37 PM

Looks like it doesn't have BMW approval.

HJ · 08-15-2019, 06:24 PM

Get a oil change at the dealer and call it a day with promotions every month I don't see it being that big of a difference then doing your own oil plus you get a courtesy mpi. My dealer uses 0w30 as the 5w30 has been discontinued a couple of years ago only a few dealers still use the 5w30 and that's due to leftover stock.

Swiftness~ · 08-15-2019, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HJ

Get a oil change at the dealer and call it a day with promotions every month I don't see it being that big of a difference then doing your own oil plus you get a courtesy mpi. My dealer uses 0w30 as the 5w30 has been discontinued a couple of years ago only a few dealers still use the 5w30 and that's due to leftover stock.

Ahh that explains why my last two oil changes has been with 0-30 asked my sa what happened to the 5-30 and he just said 0-30 is the newer oil without any explanation lol

artem123 · 08-15-2019, 10:22 PM

My closest dealer is 40 mls away. I just cannot justify a trip just for oil. Indy will do it.

deiselpwr · 08-15-2019, 10:28 PM

Step 1. Look in the owners manual to see recommendations for viscosity
2. Look on the back of the oil bottle to see if it is BMW spec ( additives). This is more for deisel engines. I hope this helps

ed116 · 08-15-2019, 11:58 PM

does anyone recommend pennzoil? im also looking to switch from the dealer ($200 every oil change)

bmwx5er · 08-16-2019, 11:19 AM

Any oil with LL01 spec is fine for the gasoline engines. I’m switching to castrol Edge 0w40 which seems to be the best in the market in that category (folks at BITOG can’t stop raving about it), and best of all it’s about $22 per 5QT jug at Walmart.

ems328i · 08-16-2019, 12:25 PM

I've always used Shell oil, possibly biased as my dad used to work for them for 30 yrs in exploration, but it is also the official BMW oil these days (at least in Europe, the Middle East and Africa):

https://www.shell.com/business-custo...-supplier.html

turboawd · 08-16-2019, 07:03 PM

You can get Castrol 0w-40 for a great price at Wal-Mart. And it's euro spec.

TheUltimateDrivingManiac · 08-16-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ems328i

I've always used Shell oil, possibly biased as my dad used to work for them for 30 yrs in exploration, but it is also the official BMW oil these days (at least in Europe, the Middle East and Africa):

https://www.shell.com/business-custo...-supplier.html

Worldwide.

Twin Peaks · 08-16-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turboawd

You can get Castrol 0w-40 for a great price at Wal-Mart. And it's euro spec.

I get for $20.48 on subscribe and save via Amazon and filters from BMW of south Atlanta for like $6 in bulk. Keep your eye on Amazon for fluctuating prices and lock it in when you can.

Castrol 03101 EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 5 quart, 1 pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JGQLZSU..._g00vDb2G8YD25

artem123 · 08-17-2019, 07:15 AM

Wow... I must admit BMW and oil are frenemies))) I gave in and bought overpriced BMW 0W 30 twin-turbo oil. I will not return Mobil 1 and use it for my wife's E90. BMW dropped Mobil1 over the favour of something else, while Mobile 1 never changed its formula and in fact, one of the best one around. I dedicated past few days studying this subject and pretty sure that choosing one brand over by another by BMW is nothing but legal mambo jumbo involving who pays more for having their logo on oil cup.

alphaod · 08-17-2019, 08:55 AM

Here’s the BMW oil if you don’t want to buy it to from the dealer:
Pennzoil Platinum Euro-L Full Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil (1-Quart, Case of 6) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZEK6Z64/

Though I get mine from the dealer which is the 0W30 version which is actually cheaper than Amazon (go figure). Also factory oil is sold in Liters so you only need 8 bottles instead of 8.5 Qt.

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artem123 Captain 248 Rep 748 Posts Drives: G30 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Philly Burbs iTrader: (0)	My closest dealer is 40 mls away. I just cannot justify a trip just for oil. Indy will do it. __________________ Ones drove a Reliant Robin. )))
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bmwx5er Major 360 Rep 1,339 Posts Drives: 2017 X5m Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Seattle iTrader: (8)	Any oil with LL01 spec is fine for the gasoline engines. I’m switching to castrol Edge 0w40 which seems to be the best in the market in that category (folks at BITOG can’t stop raving about it), and best of all it’s about $22 per 5QT jug at Walmart.
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ems328i Second Lieutenant 180 Rep 289 Posts Drives: '14 35i (F15) '14 M135i (F21) Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	I've always used Shell oil, possibly biased as my dad used to work for them for 30 yrs in exploration, but it is also the official BMW oil these days (at least in Europe, the Middle East and Africa): https://www.shell.com/business-custo...-supplier.html __________________ 2014 X5 35i Sophistograu A90 (Dark Graphite) Terra Dakota Eibach Pro Kit & Lowering Links, RC GTS Black 2014 M135i 3dr
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artem123 Captain 248 Rep 748 Posts Drives: G30 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Philly Burbs iTrader: (0)	Wow... I must admit BMW and oil are frenemies))) I gave in and bought overpriced BMW 0W 30 twin-turbo oil. I will not return Mobil 1 and use it for my wife's E90. BMW dropped Mobil1 over the favour of something else, while Mobile 1 never changed its formula and in fact, one of the best one around. I dedicated past few days studying this subject and pretty sure that choosing one brand over by another by BMW is nothing but legal mambo jumbo involving who pays more for having their logo on oil cup. __________________ Ones drove a Reliant Robin. )))
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alphaod Mmmmm… 1148 Rep 2,426 Posts Drives: F15 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW X5 xDrive50i [10.00]	Here’s the BMW oil if you don’t want to buy it to from the dealer: Pennzoil Platinum Euro-L Full Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil (1-Quart, Case of 6) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZEK6Z64/ Though I get mine from the dealer which is the 0W30 version which is actually cheaper than Amazon (go figure). Also factory oil is sold in Liters so you only need 8 bottles instead of 8.5 Qt.
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