2018 RRSC vs. 2017 X5M...

[iconoclast]

Anyone on here considering the new Range Rover? All new interior with updated tech and features along with a face lift.

[onfireX5]

Power ?

[iconoclast]

The one in the image is a Hybrid however the interior and tech are available on the SC which is 518hp/461tq or 557/516tq depending on if you go for the SV package or not.

[mswaz]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Anyone on here considering the new Range Rover? All new interior with updated tech and features along with a face lift.

How soon before it's in the shop?

[iconoclast]

i believe the first service is 1yr/15k miles however i would do an oil change around 1200 and 7500 miles.

[mswaz]

Not what I was referring to

[Montesquieu1748]

I think they did a nice update to the interior, exterior on all 2018 models, and their multimedia infotainment system. I would lean more towards the 2018 Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR, but that is just my preference. I prefer the entire sport line handling to the standard Range Rover. If I had not just bought the 2018 X5 M, I would have bought the 2018 LRRR SPORT SVR.

[Montesquieu1748]

Quality and reliability have gone up when looking at an independent source like JD Power since Land Rover was purchased by Tata Motors from Ford Motor Company almost a decade ago. But, as most people would acknowledge, it could only go up from where it was. I think the largest complaint I have heard of is the limited network of dealerships/service departments. Slowing down typical service appointment timelines.

[RPI-M5]

I owned a RRSC before the X5M and the quality was horrible. Owned it under a year and had to have it flatbedded out of my garage twice for dead batteries, had the LCD instrument panel shut off randomly while driving, and the telematics are unusable. Having to use my iPhone for navigation in a $95k car was unacceptable.

Plus my guess is the 2018 SVRs will sticker for around $135k. That's a lot of coin

[HMN]

If you're talking about the big RR SC, Beautiful machine, however this facelift is only expected to last until 2020, with a completely new design on the way. If you'd opt for it i'd go for the autobiography SV dynamic, just for the extra power and diamond stitching seats.

[cartel]

I just sold my 4th Rover on Monday - a '14 L454 Sport SCV8. Aside from a couple of the avant's (that you probably remember, Iconoclast), this was one of the best cars I've owned. Clearly the guy who made the remark about it being in the shop hasn't owned one in some time; the reliability over nearly 4 years was spot on other than a few miscellaneous recall items taken care of during service intervals. As with any car there are pros and cons:

- The sound of the blown V8 is intoxicating, especially on the SVR
- Though most of them will never see dirt, they're incredibly capable off-road and in the snow. Being able to lift the car a few inches with the press of a button has come in handy more than a few times.
- Handling was surprisingly good with their dynamic suspension. I had also lowered mine with a module and added some spacers which was undoubtedly helpful, but again, surprisingly nimble for what seems like a cumbersome vehicle.
- While lacking in technology & features, the interior gives a nice semblance of simplicity.
- I've also always appreciate the condensed model-line of Rovers compared to that of say, BMW, who probably have 50 different variants at any given time.

Cons?
- The depreciation is awful. My car had a sticker for nearly $105k, and I sold it for $50k less than that with 50k miles.
- The car heavily lacks in technology accouterments. While this facelift of the Sport and full sized Rovers will close the delta, I have a feeling it will still lack heavily behind the big three Germans.
- The pricing and lease rates are utter shite, especially compared to what BMW offers. I just had a good friend pick up a Bentley Bentayga over the full sized rover since it was less expensive.

All that said, I'm still eager to get into one of the new Sports or full sizers if I don't first pick up a F85. I believe that a full redesign is still a long way away since they've been running at a 10-year clip thus far.

[iconoclast]

I've owned several LR/RR products and my BMW products were more problematic than the LR/RR... Ms.Was made a comment about the vehicle being unreliable yet also experienced issues with their X5M being in the shop at 4800 miles. The comical thing is that the stigma of poor reliability stems from an era when LR/RR was owned by BMW and used BMW motors and electronics. I can find issues with every brand I've owned and I can find praise for them as well. In some areas some do better in other areas some do worse and vice versa. I have yet to own the perfect vehicle that is absolutely fantastic in all areas of design, interior, quality, tech, handling and performance. I appreciate the information and insight to your ownership experience and sharing your opinion. (Unrelated by I recall you owning some Audi vehicles as well.)

Originally Posted by HMN

If you're talking about the big RR SC, Beautiful machine, however this facelift is only expected to last until 2020, with a completely new design on the way. If you'd opt for it i'd go for the autobiography SV dynamic, just for the extra power and diamond stitching seats.

the replacement of the L405 doesn't effect my decision making process since i would probably have three or four different vehicles by the time they hit the road but as far as the SV Dynamic recommendation goes i would not spend $187k on a vehicle let alone for a handful of extra hp that could be extracted from the non AB SCV8 with ease.