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I found better
Red Line 5W30 is 11.9 and 3.7 with a Noack of 6. Wouldn't that pretty much be the ultimate?
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01-09-2022, 10:47 PM | #47 | |
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You need something approved for daily. No Redline performance series is approved for anything. Again, something lighter but not too light with actual approvals, mainly MB229.5 (most comprehensive approval). |
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01-10-2022, 12:44 AM | #48 |
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Funny enough I am going through the same discovery process atm. Going through allot of the forums, youtubers tests and keep finding that 8100s seems to have the better anti wear properties across the range
I wish I wish i could get the X-Cess Gen2 5w40 here as its a nice medium between their 5w30 and 5w40. Eg. Project Farm, youtuber and found that the testing method is iffy, doesn't produce the same results. His choice for winner is kind of off as he only takes the mass loss not the % of starting mass, and the reported oil specs are grossly incorrect. The metrics, with % values. Look at that % diff for Pennzoil between the 2 tests Anyways the link where i pull the stats from. Did have a look at other youtubers and it seems a tug of ware between Motul, LM and Ravenol. The oil type they choose from the brand (version ie. x-clean vs x-max, ect) does seem to make a huge difference. Last edited by Chilled; 01-10-2022 at 03:15 AM.. |
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01-10-2022, 07:22 AM | #49 | |
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01-10-2022, 08:01 AM | #50 | ||
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I know people like Redline bcs. you know exotic oil, etc. but seriously, you would be better running that Castrol Edge 0W30. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 is very, very thin 40 grade. Some VOA show actually in 30 grade when fresh. That is really good oil. I mean, by all means try Redline, but do UOA at 5k including TAN measurement. |
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01-10-2022, 09:52 AM | #51 | |
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Please let me know if you can find the specs for the OEM BMW Twin Power Turbo 0W30, I'd be curious to know how that compares. Thanks! |
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01-10-2022, 09:59 AM | #52 | ||
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TPT 5W30 on other hand looks really good. Similar KV100 but HTHS has to be minimum 3.5. So that is definitely good oil. |
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01-10-2022, 10:40 AM | #53 |
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Edycol, I'm curious to your thoughts on ASTM D5481 vs ASTM D4741 for HTHS testing methodologies. I ask as I notice Liqui Moly uses this on their 5-40 Leichtlauf vs other manufacturers seem to favor the D4741 method. From what I can tell, D5481 appears to be more stringent.
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01-10-2022, 09:07 PM | #54 | |
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I am skeptical about Liqui Moly since I worked as test driver for oil blender in Europe some 16-17yrs ago. We tested a lot of oils for comparison and Liqui Moly was becoming popular, so we used it too. It had actually worse results than some of the small really unknown blenders here like INA, OLMA, MOL, and some others. I bet they improved a lot, but IMO, not on par with big names. That being said, they are approved for some of the most stringent approvals. It is still good oil, just there are a lot of excellent oils in this game. |
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01-10-2022, 10:46 PM | #55 | |
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Everything appeared to be in excellent shape for the miles & cylinder leak down were all within 5%. Engine is now at 175K miles and is driven like its stolen every day. No doubt there are better oils, at least on paper, but this has been working so well for me I am going to stick with it. Any oil that nets 175K+ miles in a 560hp low 12 second 1/4 mile 5500lb tank has to be doing something right. Last edited by Sophisticated Redneck; 01-10-2022 at 10:52 PM.. |
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But, this topic is like: do you prefer Michelin Pilot PS4S or Yokohama Advan Apax V601? They will do job. This is matured industry. But, product they offer is marked up bcs. Made in Germany and shameless marketing, while you can pick up better product in local Wal Mart. That is what I am saying. |
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01-10-2022, 11:38 PM | #57 |
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What bmw uses when they service my vehicle. In South Africa where I live, Bmw vehicles come with minimum 5 year maintenance plan and any repair costs us nothing and the services cost nothing as well.
We however have to service at a BMW dealership and cannot performance mod our cars during this period should we wish to keep this cover in place. I have optioned through BMW to extend my plan to 7 years and hence I get given the BMW branded oil. |
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oh, no, I knew Shell made BMWs oil. Based on the scoring numbers, it looks to be in the Helix Ultra line. ( personally don't care enough to find out, nor use Shell).
Just more of a hey, his testing method looks repeatable, in prep for the eventual statement that BMW branded oil is the best. |
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01-11-2022, 06:17 PM | #61 |
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https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...ter/20232~liq/
So shopped around and this is the stuff to be using!! Lol |
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But since February 2021, Castrol is supplier. |
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I originally shied away from it, but those numbers are pretty damn good and it says suitable for LL01 and LL01-FE. https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pdf/en_GB/liqui/90/P000323 |
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There is Russian web site oil-club.ru where they tested bunch of TPT stuff. Completely different from Helix. More PAO, less GTL. |
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