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      08-11-2018, 05:08 PM   #23
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The sr71 was a stealth aircraft though?
I think it was stealth by virtue of how high it could fly; above radar at that time.

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I went supersonic many times but it was only on FCFs (functional check flight). These were periodic flights required for each aircraft. Had to check to make sure that the F-4 would reach it's Mach 2.2 top speed or document the max speed that it would reach. Of course there were other things a t supersonic flight that were checked, like intake ramps functioning, etc., but those were the only times.
Is there any discernible thing that happens when you break the sound barrier, from inside the cockpit?
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I think it was stealth by virtue of how high it could fly; above radar at that time.

It was also stealth by its shape and radar absorbing paint.


Is there any discernible thing that happens when you break the sound barrier, from inside the cockpit?
No. Well, the airspeed indicator reads pretty high
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I think its possible he was shot down...

If you watch the witness videos closely, one shows a small explosion/burst of flames near the body of the plane before it crashed (with a fighter jet in close proximity).
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If it was shot down I think it was justified. I feel for the guy but he could have killed a lot of people.
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If it was shot down I think it was justified. I feel for the guy but he could have killed a lot of people.
Not completely up to speed on Seattle news these days, but someone said Pearl Jam was playing at the CLink and Mariners at Safeco. Meanwhile this guy is talking about how much fuel he has left. Sorry but that's totally justified.
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The sr71 was a stealth aircraft though?!

Shame they retired it.
Not stealth in the terms we’ve come to define it since the F-117, but definitely stealthy due to shape and the “iron ball” paint used on the airframe.

Here’s my favorite story of how incredible the plane’s speed was:

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/favor...ory-1079127041

Definitely a shame they were retired. Makes you wonder what sort of stuff the US is flying today that hasn’t been made public. I believe Lockheed Skunk Works actually acknowledged at one point they were working on an SR-72, but I’ve got no idea what the status of that project is.
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.
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Not stealth in the terms we’ve come to define it since the F-117, but definitely stealthy due to shape and the “iron ball” paint used on the airframe.

Here’s my favorite story of how incredible the plane’s speed was:

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/favor...ory-1079127041

Definitely a shame they were retired. Makes you wonder what sort of stuff the US is flying today that hasn’t been made public. I believe Lockheed Skunk Works actually acknowledged at one point they were working on an SR-72, but I’ve got no idea what the status of that project is.
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.


I think if it went down the exact same way no matter what the race everyone would have reacted the same way.

Now if this dude took it and killed a bunch of people he wouldn’t be getting any praise.
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.
call me a crybaby a you want. I'm merely pointing out facts here. no one here can can refute what I wrote bc you all know that if names/race of the "pilot" was different both outcome of the event and verbage in this post would be very different.
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call me a crybaby a you want. I'm merely pointing out facts here. no one here can can refute what I wrote bc you all know that if names/race of the "pilot" was different both outcome of the event and verbage in this post would be very different.
Sorry I was editing my post.

I think since he didn’t kill anyone but himself people feel it wasn’t that big of a deal.

Again if it went down the exact same way no matter what race people would be saying the same thing. If the communication from pilot to ground was the exact same.

If this white guy would have been saying fuck everyone I am going to kill people he would have been taken down instantly and no one would be saying good job.

How would the outcome be different? He crashed and died. Or was taken down.
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call me a crybaby a you want. I'm merely pointing out facts here. no one here can can refute what I wrote bc you all know that if names/race of the "pilot" was different both outcome of the event and verbage in this post would be very different.
Sorry I was editing my post.

I think since he didn’t kill anyone but himself people feel it wasn’t that big of a deal.

Again if it went down the exact same way no matter what race people would be saying the same thing. If the communication from pilot to ground was the exact same.

If this white guy would have been saying fuck everyone I am going to kill people he would have been taken down instantly and no one would be saying good job.
fair point. next question: what if the guy had any sort of accent. do you think her would have been asked to land at the base? don't you think he would have been shot out of the sky much sooner?
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fair point. next question: what if the guy had any sort of accent. do you think her would have been asked to land at the base? don't you think he would have been shot out of the sky much sooner?
Maybe

But again if the communication was exactly the same I don’t think so.

The guy wasn’t hostile while communicating with them and if he was he would have been taken down first thing. The last thing they would have wanted to do was sit there and tell the guy he better land or he will be shot down. He could have done something even more stupid then he already was doing.

Besides the guy dying everything played out how it should have.

As with any situation there will always be should of, could of and would of being said.

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fair point. next question: what if the guy had any sort of accent. do you think her would have been asked to land at the base? don't you think he would have been shot out of the sky much sooner?
I think you are trying to make trouble where trouble doesn't exist and making assumptions that you have no knowledge to make. Why does it become necessary to be a trouble maker?
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.
Are you @##$ing kidding me?

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fair point. next question: what if the guy had any sort of accent. do you think her would have been asked to land at the base? don't you think he would have been shot out of the sky much sooner?
I think you are trying to make trouble where trouble doesn't exist and making assumptions that you have no knowledge to make. Why does it become necessary to be a trouble maker?
I'm trying to provoke thought, not "make trouble".
if this guys name was Ahmed, would the responses in the media and in this thread be the same?
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fair point. next question: what if the guy had any sort of accent. do you think her would have been asked to land at the base? don't you think he would have been shot out of the sky much sooner?
Maybe

But again if the communication was exactly the same I don't think so.

The guy wasn't hostile while communicating with them and if he was he would have been taken down first thing. The last thing they would have wanted to do was sit there and tell the guy he better land or he will be shot down. He could have done something even more stupid then he already was doing.

Besides the guy dying everything played out how it should have.

As with any situation there will always be should of, could of and would of being said.
thank you for the conversation/ discussion / thought in your response. I wanted to open a conversation about this. I'm not trying to be hostile toward any group of people. I'm just trying to point out the dichotomy that I see in the responses.
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.
Why is it racist people always think racist thoughts like the above!

Weird!
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I'm trying to provoke thought, not "make trouble".
if this guys name was Ahmed, would the responses in the media and in this thread be the same?
What different response would you expect. No one has approved of what he did and people commented that if he was shot down, then it was justified. Where do you see this guy being praised and where was he given different treatment than you might have expected because he was a white male?
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It’s easy to bring race into anything if you want to... I never saw what race this person was. All I saw was that this guy never stated any terrorist actions so assumed it was just suicidal, like the article stated.
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I wonder what all of your reactions would be if the was Muslim, black, Hispanic, African, etc.; anything other than white. bc this guy is getting props for stealing a fking plane and having military jets scrambled to take him down.
this literally the meaning of white privilege. not a single response in here is really negative against what he did, or against Caucasians as a whole. and the guy is immediately mentally unstable, lone wolf, etc. if he was Muslim people would have filled this post with vile statements about Islam as a whole.
Why is it racist people always think racist thoughts like the above!

Weird!
thanks for your "insight" but that's simply untrue.
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