LCD Instrument Cluster

[ryno8551]

So I have found different threads talking about the LCD instrument panel. Does this definitely come with the Driver Assistance Package?

[lovec1990]

here in slovenia you get it if you order heads up display

[wdimagineer]

I believe it's standard on NA cars. I don't see it listed as being part of any options packages in the order guide like it is on some other models. The last time I decoded a VIN I don't recall seeing it either.

Shaw in Canada had it and I don't think he ordered DA or DA+.

It isn't full LCD, just the lower 1/3 of the cluster. RoW cars have another option which features a smaller LCD.

[dn325ci]

Originally Posted by wdimagineer

I believe it's standard on NA cars. I don't see it listed as being part of any options packages in the order guide like it is on some other models. The last time I decoded a VIN I don't recall seeing it either.

Shaw in Canada had it and I don't think he ordered DA or DA+.

It isn't full LCD, just the lower 1/3 of the cluster. RoW cars have another option which features a smaller LCD.

Careful - the full width LCD is not standard on NA cars. It's tied to HUD.

[atlantiQue]

Originally Posted by wdimagineer

I believe it's standard on NA cars.

It is not standard. Read this thread and pay attention to posts of BMWMN1971. He got his car with no extended instrument cluster. No one knows, especially not the BMW dealers, what you need to order to get extended one. The theory is HUD, but someone else said the key is to have speed limit info as it uses the left part of extended cluster which may be missing if you do not order this feature.

http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=933067

[ShahiniBmw]

It does deff come with the driver assistance package bc of the HUD

[wdimagineer]

Originally Posted by dn325ci

Careful - the full width LCD is not standard on NA cars. It's tied to HUD.

I stand corrected. I don't want to spread bad information. I just can't find the exact override. Perusing the parts catalog though it appears to be tied to HUD. I've seen SLI on the smaller screen on other cars.

I haven't personally seen the X5 without it.

I've decoded about 10 different VINs from X5's on the ground and I don't see anything that shows which cluster is included. Whereas on the 5-Series, for example, I get this:

Heimdall:~ jb$ ./decode WBAKN9C58ED000671 -hopt S6WAA -hlang EN-US

BMW VIN Decoder 0.5.7b
Copyright (C) 2014 WDImagineer. All Rights Reserved.

Connecting...			OK
Decoding...			OK

Flags:
- specific option
- language: English, US

Decoding complete!

VIN:      WBAKN9C58ED000671
Type:     Limousine
Code:     KN93
E:        F10
Series:   5
Steering: Left
Doors:    4
Engine:   N63T
Disp:     4.40
Power:    330
Drive:    Rear
Trans:    Automatic
Color:    Spacegrau Metallic - code A52
Uphol:    Leder Dakota/Schwarz Exklusivnaht - code LCLZ
ProdDate: 2013/07/25

Options Filtered
S6WAA matches on this vehicle!

Code	Description				Translated

S6WAA	INSTRUMENTENKOMBI. M. ERW. UMF.		Instrument panel with extended scope

-vs- X5:

Heimdall:~ jb$ ./decode 5UXKR6C57E0C03873 -hopt S6WAA -hlang EN-US

BMW VIN Decoder 0.5.7b
Copyright (C) 2014 WDImagineer. All Rights Reserved.

Connecting...			OK
Decoding...			OK

Flags:
- specific option
- language: English, US

Decoding complete!

VIN:      5UXKR6C57E0C03873
Type:     GEFZG
Code:     KR63
E:        F15 ()
Series:   X
Steering: Left
Doors:    5
Engine:   N63T
Disp:     4.40
Power:    330
Drive:    AllR
Trans:    Automatic
Color:    Mineralweiss Metallic - code A96
Uphol:    EXCL.LED.NAP.ERW./Mokka - code NAMY
ProdDate: 2014/02/10

Options Filtered
S6WAA not found on this vehicle!

Display all options? Y

One moment. Translating options...

Code	Description				Translated

S2PWA	20"M LM RAEDER DOPPELSP. 469 M/MB	BMW LA wheel, M double spoke 469
S2TBA	SPORT-AUTOMATIK GETRIEBE	Sport automatic gearbox
S2VBA	REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE	Tyre pressure display
S2VFA	ADAPTIVES M FAHRWERK	Adaptive M chassis
S2VPA	ADAPTIVES FAHRWERKSPAKET DYNAMIC	Adaptive suspension package Dynamic
S319A	INTEGRIERTE UNIVERSAL-FERNBEDIENUNG	Integrated universal remote control
S322A	KOMFORTZUGANG	Comfort access
S323A	SOFT-CLOSE-AUTOMATIK FUER TUEREN	Soft-Close-Automatic doors
P337A	M SPORTPAKET	M Sports package
S3AGA	RUECKFAHRKAMERA	Reversing camera
S3ATA	DACHRELING ALUMINIUM SATINIERT	Roof rail, aluminium, satinised
S3DZA	ENTFALL ZUSATZ-SCHRIFTZUG AUSSEN	Omission of additional lettering, outer
S417A	SONNENSCHUTZROLLO HINTERE TUERSCH.	Roller sun visor, rear door
S420A	SONNENSCHUTZVERGLASUNG	Sun protection glazing
S423A	FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS	Floor mats velours
S430A	INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND	Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S441A	RAUCHERPAKET	Smoker package
S456A	KOMFORTSITZE ELEKTRISCH VERSTELLBAR	Comfort seat with memory
S488A	LORDOSENSTUETZE FAHRER/BEIFAHRER	Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S493A	ABLAGENPAKET	Storage compartment package
S494A	SITZHEIZUNG FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER	Seat heating driver/passenger
S4DDA	EDLHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG FINELINE PUR STR	Fine-wood trim Fineline Pur
S4NBA	KLIMAAUTOMATIK MIT 4-ZONENREGELUNG	Autom. climate control with 4-zone ctrl
S4U1A	KERAMIKAPPLIKATION F.BEDIENELEMENTE	Ceramic application, control elements
S508A	PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)	Park Distance Control (PDC)
S552A	ADAPTIVER LED-SCHEINWERFER	Adaptive LED headlight
S563A	LICHTPAKET	Light package
S575A	ZUSAETZLICHE 12-V-STECKDOSEN	Additional 12V sockets
S5A1A	LED-NEBELSCHEINWERFER	LED Fog lights
S5ACA	FERNLICHTASSISTENT	High-beam assistant
S5APA	DEKODIERUNG BLENDFREI. FERNL. ASSIS	Decoding anti-gl. high beam assistant
S5DLA	SURROUND VIEW	Surround View
S609A	NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL	Navigation system Professional
S610A	HEAD-UP DISPLAY	Head-up display
S655A	SATELLITENTUNER	Satellite tuner
S697A	AREA-CODE 1	Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6ACA	INTELLIGENTER NOTRUF	Intelligent emergency call
S6AEA	TELESERVICES	TELESERVICES
S6AKA	CONNECTEDDRIVE SERVICES	Connected Drive Services
S6AMA	REAL TIME TRAFFIC INFORMATION	Real-Time Traffic Information
S6APA	REMOTE SERVICES	Remote Services
S6F2A	BANG&OLUFSEN HIGH END SURROUND SOUN	Bang&Olufsen High End Sound System Plus
S6FHA	FOND-ENTERTAINMENT PROFESSIONAL	Rear-cabin entertainment, Professional
S6NRA	APPS	Apps
S6NSA	KOMFORTTELEFONIE MIT ERW. SMARTPHON	Comfort telephony w/ enhanced Smartphone
S710A	M LEDERLENKRAD	M leather steering wheel
S715A	M AERODYNAMIKPAKET	M Aerodynamics package
S760A	INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE	High gloss shadow line
S775A	INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT	Headlining anthracite
P7S8A	INTERIEURDESIGN PURE EXPERIENCE IN	Interior design Pure Excellence
S840A	HOCHGESCHWINDIGKEITSABSTIMMUNG	High speed synchronisation
S8KLA	OELWARTUNGSINT. 15.000KM/12MONATE	Oil service interval 15,000 km/12 months
S8S4A	DECODIERUNG VARIABLE LICHTVERTEILUN	Decoding, variable light distribution
S8TNA	TAGFAHRLICHT UEBER LICHTMENUE EINST	Dummy-SALAPA
S9AAA	AUSSENHAUTSCHUTZ	Outer skin protection
S212A	AUSSTATTUNG BREMSANLAGE LAENDER	Equipment, brake syst. country-specific
S258A	BEREIFUNG MIT NOTLAUFEIGENSCHAFTEN	Tyres with runflat properties
S302A	ALARMANLAGE	Alarm system
S402A	PANORAMA GLASDACH	Panorama glass roof
S645A	RADIO-STEUERUNG US	BMW US Radio
S823A	HEISSLAND-AUSFUEHRUNG	Hot-climate version
S845A	AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG	Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S853A	SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH	Language version, English
S8SLA	VORBEREITUNG FUER ANHAENGERKUPPLUNG	Trailer coupling preparation
S8SMA	FAHRGESTELLNUMMER,V.AUSSEN SICHTBAR	Car ident. number visible from outside
S992A	STEUERUNG KENNZEICHENBEFESTIGUNG	Control of number-plate attachment

There's no listing for instrument cluster at all.

[buckeyewalt]

The way it was explained to me was that if you got the Executive Package, you automatically got the HUD which in turn comes with the advanced display (NA). You don't have to get any of the other driver assistance options to get the panel. You also automatically get the Active Driving Assistant which is standard, but if you don't get the Executive Package which equals no HUD you won't get the lcd panel.

[ryno8551]

I just got the driver assistance package which includes the rear view camera and HUD, so should I expect to see it? I did not get the driver assistance plus package.

[wdimagineer]

Originally Posted by ryno8551

I just got the driver assistance package which includes the rear view camera and HUD, so should I expect to see it? I did not get the driver assistance plus package.

Yes. It's looking like HUD is the common denominator on the F15 platform in the US. The BMW geek inside me just wants to know what exactly is required and why different option codes don't show up.

[mhanism]

Thank you for sharing your story as it's inspiration for all of us. Beautiful car! Keep fighting the fight, and all the best!!!

[Poindexter]

Originally Posted by atlantiQue

It is not standard. Read this thread and pay attention to posts of BMWMN1971. He got his car with no extended instrument cluster. No one knows, especially not the BMW dealers, what you need to order to get extended one. The theory is HUD, but someone else said the key is to have speed limit info as it uses the left part of extended cluster which may be missing if you do not order this feature.

http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=933067

It took me reading through that thread a few times to get a better understanding of what was going on. What was lacking was a photo of the two different dash options next to one another, so I've added those here.

After reading the other thread it just seems that it is only a smaller part of the dash is LCD? BMWMN1971 also seems to have a backlighting problem that may or may not be related.

Here is a picture of BMWMN1971's dash and my HUD'd dash (after it came off the truck).

[Michiganian]

One of the reasons I got the HUD is that I seem to always prefer to position my steering wheel in a position where lots of the instrument cluster is blocked from view. I don't care very much about what's on the cluster because I am getting the immediately needed info projected on my windshield. On other cars the steering wheel used to drive me crazy because I had to look around it to check my speed. No longer an issue with the HUD

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by ryno8551

So I have found different threads talking about the LCD instrument panel. Does this definitely come with the Driver Assistance Package?

Canada:
I got the Extended version with Premium Package...I have no DAP...
By the way, I wasn't sure if I'd get it, as it doesn't say it comes as part of Premium...so not sure what triggers it...
and yes...I have HUD that comes with Premium package in Canada...so that could be the reason?!

[atlantiQue]

Just when you thought it's over. In this thread you will see that HUD is not the only option that triggers extended instrument cluster. f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954812 (cf. post #15). I will repeat myself.... I think it is enough to have speed limit info to get extended lcd. On the other hand... not ordering a HUD seems like a waste of still very rare opportunity.

[nikolaras]

So its anybody out there having only the Speed Limit Info (8TH) and no HUD and still having the extended LCD version...??

[atlantiQue]

It may be unlikely someone would pick speed limit info alone and skip other more useful or fancy options available in the same package/bundle. But x5pilot's car shows you can have extended lcd without hud. Getting more precise may be difficult.

[CatFlap]

Originally Posted by nikolaras

So its anybody out there having only the Speed Limit Info (8TH) and no HUD and still having the extended LCD version...??

I'll let you know in July (I've just added 8TH to my order today) I don't really want the HUD since I know I won't use it though I would really like the extended display. I'm hoping that with the now standard Driver Assist and with Speed Limit Display I'm increasing my chances somewhat.
My dealer says I'm wasting my time adding more options since the extended display is now standard in the UK though I don't know whether to believe them or not. I've seen no evidence to support this; the UK price list / spec sheet is still dated January 2014 so until the new revision of this document is released I guess we'll never know.

[nikolaras]

I was searching through the list of spare parts for the f15 here in greece and it states that there are 3 types of instrument cluster and it says that you can get the extended LCD without the HUD and without the Driving Assistance package .... i hope when i go for order in april i don't have to add HUD because if i do i have to pay 4000$ more due to taxes so am hoping to add with the changes in the list and the add of Driving Assistance package.... i want so much the extended....!!!