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      08-18-2017, 12:29 AM   #23
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I had a 2012 x6m and now have a 2014 50i. The 50i is much nicer to drive it's more comfortable, way better fuel mileage(if that matters). The x6M felt a lot more aggressive though I had it tuned with Velos and the 50i with juice box.

I can't say which is faster but I far prefer the x5 50i, just wish it was louder
Thanks. Which suspension do you have on the 50i that you say it's more comfortable then the x6m?
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Any ///M car will always be lot more desirable and will retain it's value lot better as well as compared to a non M car, always.
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Any ///M car will always be lot more desirable and will retain it's value lot better as well as compared to a non M car, always.
Haha, it's certainly not true. It all depends who is buying. For 99% of folks on used market ANY M car is closer to the bottom of their priorities and they could care less. A stock and cheap BMW with low miles will ALWAYS be more desirable for 99% of population.
Now I agree, that for us 1% of enthusiasts M cars are more desirable and hold value better. That been said I will always chose 2015 50i over E70 X5M - the difference in tech, interior and exterior is by far largest between 2nd and 3rd generation of x5. A lot more difference then there is between 3rd and 4th (G05) generation and a lot more than there was between 1st and 2nd. The gap is enormous. And as far as straight line performance goes 50i n63tu does 1/4 mile in 11.83sec confirmed on track with basically tune only - which is to say E70 X5M with tune only will not be able to show anything substantially higher (if even that). On track it's another story. M wins there hands down.
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f15 50i simply for age and tech, big improvement from the e70
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Come on folks. I expect we’ll get a G05 50i or F85 X5M thread soon.
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Such an old thread to dig up...
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Lol why oh why did you even respond to such an old thread? How did you get this deep and decide yes a response is relevant? Hahahaha
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Hope to god he didn't buy a 2012 X5M.
Haha I did buy the x5m. Incredible car. I actually ended up selling it because the suspension was simply too hard.

But the fun factor was something I'd never experienced in an SUV of that size before.

But it's not the right car as a daily driver at all. The 5.0 would be a much better choice for that.
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Haha I did buy the x5m. Incredible car. I actually ended up selling it because the suspension was simply too hard.

But the fun factor was something I'd never experienced in an SUV of that size before.

But it's not the right car as a daily driver at all. The 5.0 would be a much better choice for that.
Well what's you DD now?
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Haha I did buy the x5m. Incredible car. I actually ended up selling it because the suspension was simply too hard.

But the fun factor was something I'd never experienced in an SUV of that size before.

But it's not the right car as a daily driver at all. The 5.0 would be a much better choice for that.
Well what's you DD now?
It's a mix between a gle and the car in my avatar yes it is actually more comfortable then the x5m, mainly because of the adjustable suspension
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It's a mix between a gle and the car in my avatar yes it is actually more comfortable then the x5m, mainly because of the adjustable suspension
Interesting. I drove the GLE, and I liked it quite a bit, just not as much as my F15 X5 50i. Top notch SUV though!
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It's a mix between a gle and the car in my avatar yes it is actually more comfortable then the x5m, mainly because of the adjustable suspension
Interesting. I drove the GLE, and I liked it quite a bit, just not as much as my F15 X5 50i. Top notch SUV though!
No question the 5.0 is more dynamic and more fun to drive. But I went with what I perceived as more reliable. I have to say all my mercs always turn on without fail and get me to where I need to go. In the case of the gle, not as fun and pretty ugly in general, but it gets the job done.
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It's a mix between a gle and the car in my avatar yes it is actually more comfortable then the x5m, mainly because of the adjustable suspension
I hope you're getting the real GLE, not the X6 imposter (jk)
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It's a mix between a gle and the car in my avatar yes it is actually more comfortable then the x5m, mainly because of the adjustable suspension
I hope you're getting the real GLE, not the X6 imposter (jk)
True the gle coupe is as much of an imposter as any car I've seen. But ironically because it looks so similar to the e71 I like it better then the current x6.

Regardless I'm talking about the regular gle which is just ugly no matter how you look at it and is boring. But it's reliable. Also have an order in for the 2020 gle which looks to be a technological tour de force.

We shall see
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2015 5.0. If the performance difference was an issue- you can MPPK the 5.0 (I think) and/or add a Race Chip. It will make a difference. I think if you can find the 2015 with the M-Sport option- the 130 mph governor may be significantly higher. Either way, it'll suck the headlights out of an SQ5, (my neighbor has one- so that's my juvenile benchmark... :-) )
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Lots of threads on DHP on this forum, all of them singing the praises of this option. When assessing the merits, try to assess whether the poster offering an opinion actually has DHP or not.

I am lucky to have one of those rare cars that has DHP. I have not driven an X5M, so cannot compare to that, but have driven X5 M Sport with adaptive suspension and the difference is night and day. Active sway bars dramatically reduce body roll when cornering. Torque vectoring (however it is implemented) really helps with turn-in when cornering - no hint of understeer.

If it's available, and all other things being equal, going for DHP is a no-brainer.

At the end though, as others have said, try them both - go for whichever you prefer. And enjoy.
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Funny you should mention this I actually ordered the GLE63 Coupe with the night styling and AMG exhaust back in 2015 but decided after the car arrived I didn’t want it…
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Lots of threads on DHP on this forum, all of them singing the praises of this option. When assessing the merits, try to assess whether the poster offering an opinion actually has DHP or not.

I am lucky to have one of those rare cars that has DHP. I have not driven an X5M, so cannot compare to that, but have driven X5 M Sport with adaptive suspension and the difference is night and day. Active sway bars dramatically reduce body roll when cornering. Torque vectoring (however it is implemented) really helps with turn-in when cornering - no hint of understeer.

If it's available, and all other things being equal, going for DHP is a no-brainer.

At the end though, as others have said, try them both - go for whichever you prefer. And enjoy.
I cannot say this enough - but I find this whole DHP "argument" kind of silly.

We're talking about a high center of gravity, 5K-lb SUV. It doesn't much matter what you do - DHP or not - you cannot defeat the laws of physics and have this thing handle like a sports car. Can you make a small difference when you're accelerating on an onramp? Sure. But I suspect almost no one on this forum is tracking their X5 or driving it to their very limits. If you bought an X5 for its cornering abilities, then I daresay you've bought the wrong car.

If you really want a car that that handles like a sports coupe, get an M3. I have both. I don't expect my X5 to ever handle like my M3, and I don't intend to drive it for that purpose or that extreme.

If you really want an even more practical car that handles closer to a sports car/sports coupe, there are a few wagons out there that fit the bill. But again, a high CoG, large, 5K-lb SUV just isn't it - not built for that purpose.

On the other hand, I completely understand people's desire to have their X5 handle better than other comparably-sized SUVs. Totally fair. If we're talking about things in that context, then I completely agree. I also agree that all things being equal (price included), of course it's better to get DHP. It's a no-brainer to have that package. But the discussions on this forum from folks who've probably never driven on a track re. DHP are pretty comical in general, as if it'll take your X5 and turn it into a 911 GT3. Does it make a bit of a difference? Of course? Is it a complete transformation of the entire vehicle, making it handle like a sports coupe? No.

Also, FWIW, if you're out of warranty, it can get pretty expensive to fix the DHP if it breaks down. One of my close friends runs a BMW repair shop...ask me how I know.
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The skidpad numbers for an x5 with dhp and summer tires is something fairly ridiculous for an suv, maybe .95?

While you can feel the height, you definitely don't feel the weight like you'd imagine. I'd say my x5 handles better than my old 335 in terms of speed but the 335 "felt" more planted due to the lower cog.
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