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      11-25-2020, 08:52 PM   #1
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buying a 15 x6 that never had an oil change in 20k miles

hello im planning to buy my friends 2015 f16 off his hands. 82,425 msrp. high optioned with m sport, cold weather, driver assistance, driver assistance plus, dynamic handling, lighting, luxury seating and premium package.

he is the second owner and got the car around 29k miles. he has driven the car from pa to dc without doing any service in 2 years (from october 2017 to december 2019) until i told him he had to do service at 49k miles. one great thing about the 2015 was the warranty that included brakes and rotors which he did not take any advantage of. did also replaced engine filters, cabin air filters and air circulation around 51k. currently has 55k.

clean carfax report. just wondering what major things that i should do/ look for especially knowing he has done nothing.

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I would probably pass knowing he went that long without servicing, especially no oil change. Warranty most likely won’t cover any engine issue as that would come under neglect. My .02.
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the real question is why did you get rid of the x6m for a regular x6?
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the real question is why did you get rid of the x6m for a regular x6?
the old x6m was on a lease that ended. actually was my second one had a white one before. this x6 im buying it for my brother as his first german. not technically for me.
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I would probably pass knowing he went that long without servicing, especially no oil change. Warranty most likely won’t cover any engine issue as that would come under neglect. My .02.
the original warranty i know has expired already. the thing is the deal is really sweat at 20k. but most of the miles that were put on are highway miles from trips to DC and back to PA.
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Assuming it's 50, is it even possible to drive 20k miles w/o adding any oil?
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Assuming it's 50, is it even possible to drive 20k miles w/o adding any oil?
It is not a 50 it is a 35
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the real question is why did you get rid of the x6m for a regular x6?
the old x6m was on a lease that ended. actually was my second one had a white one before. this x6 im buying it for my brother as his first german. not technically for me.
damn you got money and for sale 20k is good deal. just change the oil asap and get an extended warranty for your brother. still cheaper those go for low 30k
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damn you got money and for sale 20k is good deal. just change the oil asap and get an extended warranty for your brother. still cheaper those go for low 30k
no, they were just really good deals from that were lease transfers. would it even be eligible for an extended warranty from BMW?
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damn you got money and for sale 20k is good deal. just change the oil asap and get an extended warranty for your brother. still cheaper those go for low 30k
no, they were just really good deals from that were lease transfers. would it even be eligible for an extended warranty from BMW?
probably third party
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probably third party
any good third parties u know of?
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change oil, drive it and enjoy it.......
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I'd pay for a PPI. If that all checks out, move ahead. Do mention the lack of oil changes.
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I'd pay for a PPI. If that all checks out, move ahead. Do mention the lack of oil changes.
That's pointless. The mechanic just looks around the exterior. He won't inspect the engine internals to see if there is extra wear.
Should have asked the tech who did the oil change after 20k miles how the old oil looked.
But if the guy did mostly highway miles, then things are probably OK.
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That's pointless. The mechanic just looks around the exterior. He won't inspect the engine internals to see if there is extra wear.
Should have asked the tech who did the oil change after 20k miles how the old oil looked.
But if the guy did mostly highway miles, then things are probably OK.
i actually did. i was the one who went with him to get it done at a Valvoline and he said it was darker than usual. with the PPI i was searching and people also said it was too expensive for what little they do unless you go up to the 700 one that includes an engine compression test or something. currently looking at third party warranty that bmw will accept if any problems may arise.
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hello im planning to buy my friends 2015 f16 off his hands. 82,425 msrp. high optioned with m sport, cold weather, driver assistance, driver assistance plus, dynamic handling, lighting, luxury seating and premium package.

he is the second owner and got the car around 29k miles. he has driven the car from pa to dc without doing any service in 2 years (from october 2017 to december 2019) until i told him he had to do service at 49k miles. one great thing about the 2015 was the warranty that included brakes and rotors which he did not take any advantage of. did also replaced engine filters, cabin air filters and air circulation around 51k. currently has 55k.

clean carfax report. just wondering what major things that i should do/ look for especially knowing he has done nothing.

pic. the x6 on the left and my old x6m on the right
In my younger years I once put 45k on my Yukon Denali before changing the oil...I was a real bastard to that truck. However an ancient pushrod engine that you could literally piss in and still run this is not....

I would highly recommend you have a compression leak down test and the cylinders borescoped at the very least. An analysis of the oil too would be wise.

How did he drive it? 20k city miles and 20k highway miles are very different on engine wear and oil breakdown.
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i actually did. i was the one who went with him to get it done at a Valvoline and he said it was darker than usual. with the PPI i was searching and people also said it was too expensive for what little they do unless you go up to the 700 one that includes an engine compression test or something. currently looking at third party warranty that bmw will accept if any problems may arise.
Just buy it then. The 35i is pretty reliable. I would skip the warranty too.
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In my younger years I once put 45k on my Yukon Denali before changing the oil...I was a real bastard to that truck. However an ancient pushrod engine that you could literally piss in and still run this is not....

I would highly recommend you have a compression leak down test and the cylinders borescoped at the very least. An analysis of the oil too would be wise.

How did he drive it? 20k city miles and 20k highway miles are very different on engine wear and oil breakdown.
mostly highway from pa to dc and back. also the thing is for the price of 20k too for such a high msrp car i think its worth but like i said this is for my brother. first ever german and so he isnt use to german ownership yet lol. but when i had both x6m i had no problems both were tune besides adding a quart of oil from there and then but i personally havent owned any german past 60k miles.
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You can do the oil analysis and see how things are.
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That's pointless. The mechanic just looks around the exterior. He won't inspect the engine internals to see if there is extra wear.
Should have asked the tech who did the oil change after 20k miles how the old oil looked.
But if the guy did mostly highway miles, then things are probably OK.
Agree. Stop and go traffic, and either very hot/cold climate would break down the oil faster than highway miles in a moderate climate. Not saying this is a dealbreaker, but would be curious as to condition of oil.
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I'd go for it, change the oil, possibly consider walnut blast cleaning, good to go.
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