N63TU 50i tunes, mods, numbers (1/4, 0-60 etc) dyno thread

[Silververtu]

Do you guys notice the engine burns more engine oil after tunes? I've burnt 2 Qt of oil in ~4500 miles. I know it's still acceptable but I never had to top it off before the tune. I will also check if there's any leak elsewhere but I doubt that's the case.

[AZTWW]

You know i was just thinking the same thing. Have had to add several quarts this year since the tune. Just got the oil serviced a day ago.

[CT335xi]

Originally Posted by Silververtu

Do you guys notice the engine burns more engine oil after tunes? I've burnt 2 Qt of oil in ~4500 miles. I know it's still acceptable but I never had to top it off before the tune. I will also check if there's any leak elsewhere but I doubt that's the case.

I would say it’s very possible if you drive it pretty aggressive as there is most likely more blow by with the increased boost. That doesn’t seem all that awful and still pretty good and I would trade that for the added power!

[Silververtu]

Yea, I am thinking to switch to 0W-40 to see if it can reduce or ease the issue a little bit

[mikew2069]

I’m switching to M1 0-40 next week. Hopefully it helps.

One gripe I have about my BM3 OTS tune is that there seems to be some pedal delay. This happens in both comfort and sport modes. Pretty annoying.

[Silververtu]

Originally Posted by mikew2069

I’m switching to M1 0-40 next week. Hopefully it helps.

One gripe I have about my BM3 OTS tune is that there seems to be some pedal delay. This happens in both comfort and sport modes. Pretty annoying.

Yes, my car has similar problem with BM3. To me it's more like it doesn't like to downshift, or it has a split second delay on downshift.

[Doberman16]

Originally Posted by Silververtu

Yes, my car has similar problem with BM3. To me it's more like it doesn't like to downshift, or it has a split second delay on downshift.

Try going into BM3, Diagnostics, Reset Learned Adaptations. You can do this with the engine running or not and only takes a few seconds. My tune was feeling sluggish in the pedal also and the reset really helped.

Also, I felt like 0W-40 did help with consumption, but never did any definitive test. It just seemed to not need a top off as often or at all on 0w-40. Thought it was in my head until I went back to 5w-30 last oil change.

[mikew2069]

Originally Posted by Doberman16

Try going into BM3, Diagnostics, Reset Learned Adaptations. You can do this with the engine running or not and only takes a few seconds. My tune was feeling sluggish in the pedal also and the reset really helped.

Also, I felt like 0W-40 did help with consumption, but never did any definitive test. It just seemed to not need a top off as often or at all on 0w-40. Thought it was in my head until I went back to 5w-30 last oil change.

Great to know, I'll give that a shot!

[Silververtu]

Originally Posted by Doberman16

Try going into BM3, Diagnostics, Reset Learned Adaptations. You can do this with the engine running or not and only takes a few seconds. My tune was feeling sluggish in the pedal also and the reset really helped.

Also, I felt like 0W-40 did help with consumption, but never did any definitive test. It just seemed to not need a top off as often or at all on 0w-40. Thought it was in my head until I went back to 5w-30 last oil change.

Thanks! Will report back

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by mikew2069

I’m switching to M1 0-40 next week. Hopefully it helps.

One gripe I have about my BM3 OTS tune is that there seems to be some pedal delay. This happens in both comfort and sport modes. Pretty annoying.

Originally Posted by Silververtu

Yes, my car has similar problem with BM3. To me it's more like it doesn't like to downshift, or it has a split second delay on downshift.

You guys can also provide a full minute log lets say before you start the pedal and log it for PTF. Email it to support@protuningfreaks.com with as much info as possible they're constantly improving the OTS maps as the community reaches out.

[Austin_2019_X5_50i]

Originally Posted by DuSh

Numbers so far:

Stock X5M: 493rwhp 499rwtq (taken from here: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=4)

Stock X5: 366awhp 428awtq this is done on Mustang Dyno (so it reads lower than Dynojet, taken here from CT335xi: https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1481608)
Stock X5: 352awhp, 390awtq - done on Mustang dyno by another member Rotzy on his 50i at stock: check his post here: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=161

50i Stage 1 BPC: 485awhp 602awtq

50i Stage 1 BM3 OTS map: 532awhp 574awtq

50i RaceChip Ultimate Setting C: 400awhp, 437awtq - done by Rotzy on Mustang dyno: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=161 (setting D showed a bit higher numbers, but Rotzy said power delivery wasn't good)

Let's not forget that AWD has additional loss in drivetrain - so numbers posted for 50i are awesome

P.S. as we'll add more dyno graphs - we will start to see a bigger picture. Some numbers are a bit outliers like that 532awhp on BM3 flash - but keep in mind we don't know what fuel owner used etc. For now we can work with this and as more data comes in - we will nail it down I hope.

I have a 2019 X5 50i I had tuned (Velos Stage 2) that I believe they increased the boost from 15 to 20psi. Dyno said 545awhp so about 150 awhp gain (456HP = 387awhp). My question is can I turn up the boost more? To what level? Will I need anything i.e. special fuel or other mods? Lastly, could this company just have increased my boost and charged me $3k??

https://youtu.be/coU4dZRULd0

That’s dyno pull. If you click on my name you can see other videos. One is me seeing what the top speed was before the tune. Not trying it now that it’s a whole second 0-60mph faster! Watch to see the top speed!

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by Austin_2019_X5_50i

How can I get my X5 50i that fast? I got it tuned. It’s ‘19 X5 50i with 545awhp. Getting 3.8s 0-60mph. Any advice on DP’s or air intake? Would like to hit those numbers you’re hitting.

Yours is 2019? Then it has a different ECU as well.
You said 3k you paid? wow
I would of waited for Bootmod3 to release support for that new ECU also found in the M550 it should be around $900

[BobBeau]

Originally Posted by mikew2069

I'm switching to M1 0-40 next week. Hopefully it helps.

One gripe I have about my BM3 OTS tune is that there seems to be some pedal delay. This happens in both comfort and sport modes. Pretty annoying.

I have the same problem in comfort mode and it kinda pisses me off. No problem in sport mode however...

[BobBeau]

Originally Posted by Silververtu

Thanks! Will report back

Did you try resetting learned adaptations?

[bm3tuning]

Originally Posted by Austin_2019_X5_50i

I have a 2019 X5 50i I had tuned (Velos Stage 2) that I believe they increased the boost from 15 to 20psi. Dyno said 545awhp so about 150 awhp gain (456HP = 387awhp). My question is can I turn up the boost more? To what level? Will I need anything i.e. special fuel or other mods? Lastly, could this company just have increased my boost and charged me $3k??

That’s dyno pull. If you click on my name you can see other videos. One is me seeing what the top speed was before the tune. Not trying it now that it’s a whole second 0-60mph faster! Watch to see the top speed!

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!

You cannot compare others stock dyno's with yours, being its a different chassis and different engine code/updated version in yours.

Highly recommend you go back and get it dyno stock for baseline and compare your gains.
Either way 3k is INSANE!

Being that these cars are just out, how long did it take for them to tune you?
Did you see different plots throughout your time there ?
Did you see them making adjustments ?

The GPS Performance Meter others are using these days is called "Dragy" you can find it on amazon. Download the Free App and enjoy!

Originally Posted by FSociety

Yours is 2019? Then it has a different ECU as well.
You said 3k you paid? wow
I would of waited for Bootmod3 to release support for that new ECU also found in the M550 it should be around $900

+1

[FenixMike]

Originally Posted by Austin_2019_X5_50i

How is there not a website that shows what the stock psi is?? And why is it so hard to find this info not only on the web, but from the two companies who tuned my car???

Because the tunes don't target boost, they target load. Boost is a number that only measures airflow restriction, therefore it varies vehicle to vehicle, and most companies don't want to post it because then people call up complaint that person a has more boost than person b, and person c is faster because his tuner added more boost and blah blah blah. Much like every manufacturer went to idiot gauges for temperature, oil pressure etc, there isn't any reason to get caught up in numbers because in the grand scheme, they have very little meaning.
The same goes for dyno numbers since every dyno is different, and most will read differently on any given day due to so many variances.

Your tuner can target more load, however generally the tunes are octane limited, so there isn't a magical way to keep adding power unless you add octane to handle it. Most bmws will automatically adjust knock sensors and feed in more timing and/or boost if you add better fuel. Try a few gallons of e85, some torco fuel additive (not garbage octane booster you find at auto parts shops), or true race gas if it's in your area.

[mikew2069]

Originally Posted by Austin_2019_X5_50i

Can’t you get that throttle response upgrade/modification? It was recommended to be bought with a tuner when I was looking on the active website.

My opinion is that you shouldn't need a throttle response mod with a flash tune. I still haven't got in there and messed with it but I plan to this weekend.

Originally Posted by Austin_2019_X5_50i

Don’t know if you saw my reply towards the end of the pages but take a look and let me know. Should I get DP’s and air intake or get these turbo upgrades stage 2 from ECS for $6k?

If you upgrade the turbos, you're going to want to do the intake, dps and possibly intercooler.

[iconoclast]

Why was Austin banned?

[CT335xi]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Why was Austin banned?

Can you get banned for posting top speed runs on public roads ?

[Muzza]

Seems there are multiple reports of reduced throttle response with BM3. This sounds contrary to what a tune should do and increase throttle response for a sportier drive.

This is putting me off from pulling the trigger. Are there any more developments on this issue?

[HydroStream6]

I didn't notice decreased response with BM3. Also, saw a license in the classifieds for $450. I'd jump on it if you're thinking about it.

[Rotzy]

Originally Posted by Muzza

Seems there are multiple reports of reduced throttle response with BM3. This sounds contrary to what a tune should do and increase throttle response for a sportier drive.

This is putting me off from pulling the trigger. Are there any more developments on this issue?

I didn't notice a change in throttle response with BM3. However, I do think that RaceChip gave me a perceived throttle response gain, but I believe this was due to the fact that it was attempting to increase boost in all throttle positions, whereas BM3 is much more linear. At light-normal throttle positions with BM3, the vehicle feels completely stock. As you push a bit harder, it wakes up and there is a noticable gain in top end power.