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      12-30-2018, 03:00 AM   #419
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So they did yours using the pedal method? I might have to try that before I surrender to taking it in to a shop... did you watch them bleed the abs and master? What was that process like?
Not sure if it's any help but I just finished the installation last weekend. First I bled all calipers right after swapping them out to save myself having to lift the car at each wheel later on again. I did however code it the same day before my first drive so I cannot comment on the change in pedal feel. All I do know is that even though I bled thoroughly the first time, pedal feel was off and I bled again the next day in the morning.
On the fronts I bled the outside first. This final bleeding I did in the 'proper' order starting at the passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front and lastly driver front.

A few months earlier I flushed the fluid, including the ABS. This requires Rheingold and starts at the driver rear. For the rest the process is similar but you do need a friend to operate the pedal when Rheingold tells you so. Please note that I did not do this after the MPBK install.

For both the bleeding and the flush I used a pressure bleeder.

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Not sure if it's any help but I just finished the installation last weekend. First I bled all calipers right after swapping them out to save myself having to lift the car at each wheel later on again. I did however code it the same day before my first drive so I cannot comment on the change in pedal feel. All I do know is that even though I bled thoroughly the first time, pedal feel was off and I bled again the next day in the morning.
On the fronts I bled the outside first. This final bleeding I did in the 'proper' order starting at the passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front and lastly driver front.

A few months earlier I flushed the fluid, including the ABS. This requires Rheingold and starts at the driver rear. For the rest the process is similar but you do need a friend to operate the pedal when Rheingold tells you so. Please note that I did not do this after the MPBK install.

For both the bleeding and the flush I used a pressure bleeder.

Hope you can solve it!
I definitely used the proper bleed sequence each time I bled but this Rheingold stuff is new to me. I'm going to start looking in to that and report back.
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Not sure if it's any help but I just finished the installation last weekend. First I bled all calipers right after swapping them out to save myself having to lift the car at each wheel later on again. I did however code it the same day before my first drive so I cannot comment on the change in pedal feel. All I do know is that even though I bled thoroughly the first time, pedal feel was off and I bled again the next day in the morning.
On the fronts I bled the outside first. This final bleeding I did in the 'proper' order starting at the passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front and lastly driver front.

A few months earlier I flushed the fluid, including the ABS. This requires Rheingold and starts at the driver rear. For the rest the process is similar but you do need a friend to operate the pedal when Rheingold tells you so. Please note that I did not do this after the MPBK install.

For both the bleeding and the flush I used a pressure bleeder.

Hope you can solve it!
I definitely used the proper bleed sequence each time I bled but this Rheingold stuff is new to me. I'm going to start looking in to that and report back.
You shouldn't need ISTA to simply change calipers. Only to active the abs or whatever to do a flush.
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You shouldn't need ISTA to simply change calipers. Only to active the abs or whatever to do a flush.
The key for me in this process was the ISTA function while bleeding the brakes. When activating the pump during bleeding, the amount of air that started coming out of my lines was mind blowing. I couldn't even finish bleeding because air just kept coming out and I ran through 2 liters of fluid and ran out of fluid. I'll bleed again next weekend using this process but my car is driveable now so that's a good thing!
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I need to change brakes on my wifes x5.. i have read thru this post and im trying to figure out what would be the best thing to do.. piece a kit or buy the mpbk kit?? also im not familiar with the coding for these cars.. would anyone be able to help me out?? im located in central new jersey..
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how much would shipping be from the uk?? i buy parts all nthe time from europe for my older audis.. shipping sucks..
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Am I right in thinking these calipers fit both the E70/71 and the F15/16s? Getting conflicting information when searching. Cheers
They're from an E70 X5M
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You shouldn't need ISTA to simply change calipers. Only to active the abs or whatever to do a flush.
The key for me in this process was the ISTA function while bleeding the brakes. When activating the pump during bleeding, the amount of air that started coming out of my lines was mind blowing. I couldn't even finish bleeding because air just kept coming out and I ran through 2 liters of fluid and ran out of fluid. I'll bleed again next weekend using this process but my car is driveable now so that's a good thing!
Did you get ISTA to work? I'm still struggling with that part haha. Was up till 2:30am last night trying to follow all these guide and get the 37 things needed downloaded actually downloaded.
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Did you get ISTA to work? I'm still struggling with that part haha. Was up till 2:30am last night trying to follow all these guide and get the 37 things needed downloaded actually downloaded.
Yes I have it up and running. It was not an easy task. Took me 6 hours... I downloaded files and programs one at a time as the instructions called for it. I feel like doing it that way helped me stay organized through the process.
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A little update and a good news: after finally changing from oem ///M pads to Ceramic pads Power Stop 161429 - noise is gone!
Now í can enjoy my f85 drilled rotors in complete quietness.
They go for $25 currently https://www.rockauto.com/?carcode=1501225&parttype=1684 - so my understanding is that oem ///m pads are metallic and way too hard. That caused noise and lots of dust. I'm hoping ceramic pads will also be free of dust as well. I'll update on dust experience.
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A little update and a good news: after finally changing from oem ///M pads to Ceramic pads Power Stop 161429 - noise is gone!
Now í can enjoy my f85 drilled rotors in complete quietness.
They go for $25 currently https://www.rockauto.com/?carcode=1501225&parttype=1684 - so my understanding is that oem ///m pads are metallic and way too hard. That caused noise and lots of dust. I'm hoping ceramic pads will also be free of dust as well. I'll update on dust experience.
Nice... I had these pads on my SRT and they were virtually dust free so you should be good there. I experienced some squeaking but hopefully you'll avoid that.
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Here is a pair of calipers recently popped on ebay if anyone is looking for a set, They are black if anyone is for a modest look. I am not associated in any way with the seller, just came across these while browsing

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Today I was swapping pads at the local indy shop and these brembo ///m calipers are so easy to swap pads at. Just 2 pins and pads are off. Guys were surprised to see that kind of style of calipers where you don't need to take anything off. However, to my knowledge Toyota also has similar style calipers on SUVs. Mechanics said they never saw such huge rotors and calipers. They probably never saw M5 with 405mm either lol.
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Today I was swapping pads at the local indy shop and these brembo ///m calipers are so easy to swap pads at. Just 2 pins and pads are off. Guys were surprised to see that kind of style of calipers where you don't need to take anything off. However, to my knowledge Toyota also has similar style calipers on SUVs. Mechanics said they never saw such huge rotors and calipers. They probably never saw M5 with 405mm either lol.
Ya not that way on the F85 unfortunately lol. But that's all I needed to do on my Brembos for my AMG and they were 6pot and 4pot.
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Today I was swapping pads at the local indy shop and these brembo ///m calipers are so easy to swap pads at. Just 2 pins and pads are off. Guys were surprised to see that kind of style of calipers where you don't need to take anything off. However, to my knowledge Toyota also has similar style calipers on SUVs. Mechanics said they never saw such huge rotors and calipers. They probably never saw M5 with 405mm either lol.
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Ya not that way on the F85 unfortunately lol. But that's all I needed to do on my Brembos for my AMG and they were 6pot and 4pot.
These are the same as any Brembos I've ever owned. What do the F85 brakes look like?
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Received my new Calipers from Ntownsend82 yesterday and they look awesome. Brand-new black calipers, no wear or damage and with pads included for $750 shipped to Denver, CO. At this price, it was a no-brainer and the shipping came quickly from Europe as well. I believe he has a pair or two left and is still cheaper than beat up used options on Ebay. Paid through paypal and his communication on everything was excellent.

Now I need to buy rotors, for those who purchased BRAKENETIC off of ebay and have been driving them, any feedback thus far? Noisy? Vibrations?

Regarding coding, I tried to follow the instructions provided on a BMW Autologic unit and could not modify the entry as suggested earlier in this thread. Anyone else figured out a way to do it? Anyone pay a BMW shop or dealer for the coding? Cost?

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Received my new Calipers from Ntownsend82 yesterday and they look awesome. Brand-new black calipers, no wear or damage and with pads included for $750 shipped to Denver, CO. At this price, it was a no-brainer and the shipping came quickly from Europe as well. I believe he has a pair or two left and is still cheaper than beat up used options on Ebay. Paid through paypal and his communication on everything was excellent.

Now I need to buy rotors, for those who purchased BRAKENETIC off of ebay and have been driving them, any feedback thus far? Noisy? Vibrations?

Regarding coding, I tried to follow the instructions provided on a BMW Autologic unit and could not modify the entry as suggested earlier in this thread. Anyone else figured out a way to do it? Anyone pay a BMW shop or dealer for the coding? Cost?

Many thanks!!
That's a fair deal if you're going to keep them black. If you're going to paint them anyways, you can still save a couple hundred by being patient on ebay.
Still a good buy though.

I got the Brakenetic rotors and pads and so far they are fine. The jury is still out because I haven't completed bleeding all the air out of my lines so I think I'm getting 75% braking power or so right now... but I plan to do that this weekend.

As far as coding goes, hopefully someone else can chime in. I tried to code mine and think I did but I'm not sure since I couldn't tell a difference. Is this what its supposed to look like when you successfully code? I posted this in the coding thread a week or so ago and never received a response. I honestly don't even know how important it is. I never coded my F30 M Performance brakes and it is completely fine.

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Received my new Calipers from Ntownsend82 yesterday and they look awesome. Brand-new black calipers, no wear or damage and with pads included for $750 shipped to Denver, CO. At this price, it was a no-brainer and the shipping came quickly from Europe as well. I believe he has a pair or two left and is still cheaper than beat up used options on Ebay. Paid through paypal and his communication on everything was excellent.

Now I need to buy rotors, for those who purchased BRAKENETIC off of ebay and have been driving them, any feedback thus far? Noisy? Vibrations?

Regarding coding, I tried to follow the instructions provided on a BMW Autologic unit and could not modify the entry as suggested earlier in this thread. Anyone else figured out a way to do it? Anyone pay a BMW shop or dealer for the coding? Cost?

Many thanks!!
That's a fair deal if you're going to keep them black. If you're going to paint them anyways, you can still save a couple hundred by being patient on ebay.
Still a good buy though.

I got the Brakenetic rotors and pads and so far they are fine. The jury is still out because I haven't completed bleeding all the air out of my lines so I think I'm getting 75% braking power or so right now... but I plan to do that this weekend.

As far as coding goes, hopefully someone else can chime in. I tried to code mine and think I did but I'm not sure since I couldn't tell a difference. Is this what its supposed to look like when you successfully code? I posted this in the coding thread a week or so ago and never received a response. I honestly don't even know how important it is. I never coded my F30 M Performance brakes and it is completely fine.

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DAMNIT DUSH YOUR M BRAKE BUG HAS BITTEN ME!!



Snagged this set for $999 on ebay both front and rear set with all 4 used rotors, i'm not holding hopes with the rotors but it may be bad. Anyways it's great a deal.

Also there's another set for sale on ebay for $1089 E70 X5M brake and caliper both front and rear set with rotors. Snag em while you can.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E70-X5M...E45:rk:15:pf:0
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Just now realizing they put the damn ///M on backwards
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Snagged this set for $999 on ebay both front and rear set with all 4 used rotors, i'm not holding hopes with the rotors but it may be bad. Anyways it's great a deal.

Also there's another set for sale on ebay for $1089 E70 X5M brake and caliper both front and rear set with rotors. Snag em while you can.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E70-X5M...E45:rk:15:pf:0
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This happened this weekend.

Just now realizing they put the damn ///M on backwards
That's not backwards IMO. That's how I put mine one..... But what caliper is that? Standard 50i caliper?
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