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      10-24-2017, 09:11 AM   #1
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This is weird, last week I took my 2016 X5 40e for a routine maintinance and the dealer performed a software update. Since then, the following happened twice, on the highway the car stutters when shifting at higher gears and when I come to a complete stop afterwards the car is in manual shift mode. I didn't touch the shifter or the buttons to change the shifting modes. Any ideas or am I just crazy here???
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This is weird, last week I took my 2016 X5 40e for a routine maintinance and the dealer performed a software update. Since then, the following happened twice, on the highway the car stutters when shifting at higher gears and when I come to a complete stop afterwards the car is in manual shift mode. I didn't touch the shifter or the buttons to change the shifting modes. Any ideas or am I just crazy here???
Do you have paddle shifters? If so, maybe you just bumped one of them.
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After owning my 2017 X5 40e for 6 months of 100% flawless and loved driving...after BMW did "The Recall"...my 40e was crippled! So bad, that eventually BMW assisted me in getting a new "17 35d! So sorry you are having issues too. Mine was almost all entirely battery related and electric range. After the recall, my battery and electric range was at least 50% diminished. BMW could not get it back. Awful!!!
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This is weird, last week I took my 2016 X5 40e for a routine maintinance and the dealer performed a software update. Since then, the following happened twice, on the highway the car stutters when shifting at higher gears and when I come to a complete stop afterwards the car is in manual shift mode. I didn't touch the shifter or the buttons to change the shifting modes. Any ideas or am I just crazy here???
Do you have paddle shifters? If so, maybe you just bumped one of them.
Forgot to mention no paddle shifters.
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After owning my 2017 X5 40e for 6 months of 100% flawless and loved driving...after BMW did "The Recall"...my 40e was crippled! So bad, that eventually BMW assisted me in getting a new "17 35d! So sorry you are having issues too. Mine was almost all entirely battery related and electric range. After the recall, my battery and electric range was at least 50% diminished. BMW could not get it back. Awful!!!
Don't say that I love this car. I hope it's just a sw issues.
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Don't say that I love this car. I hope it's just a sw issues.
Could be due to software upgrade BMW did. Try going back and ask to reflash EGS (transmission control module) back to defaults. Please update us after that
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Don't say that I love this car. I hope it's just a sw issues.
Sorry. While I loved the "mpg" I got on my 40e, I hated driving around in a 4 cylinder engine once the hybrid battery was depleted...and it really, really sounded like a 4 cyl. engine. The engine was not weak really, but I have always owned and driven 6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinder engines!

After transitioning into the 35d from the 40e, I can honestly say I do not love the 40e.
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Don't say that I love this car. I hope it's just a sw issues.
Sorry. While I loved the "mpg" I got on my 40e, I hated driving around in a 4 cylinder engine once the hybrid battery was depleted...and it really, really sounded like a 4 cyl. engine. The engine was not weak really, but I have always owned and driven 6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinder engines!

After transitioning into the 35d from the 40e, I can honestly say I do not love the 40e.
The 4cyl without the battery sucks, but when everything is running correctly, the battery never goes to zero completely, you still have some battery boost.
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Don't say that I love this car. I hope it's just a sw issues.
Sorry. While I loved the "mpg" I got on my 40e, I hated driving around in a 4 cylinder engine once the hybrid battery was depleted...and it really, really sounded like a 4 cyl. engine. The engine was not weak really, but I have always owned and driven 6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinder engines!

After transitioning into the 35d from the 40e, I can honestly say I do not love the 40e.
I charge it only overnight and I get about 32 mpg, is that what you were getting? I need the hybrid engine to keep the hybrid tag for HOV lane exemption.
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The 4cyl without the battery sucks, but when everything is running correctly, the battery never goes to zero completely, you still have some battery boost.
Even before I had "The Recall Update", with a lot of city driving, my hybrid battery would deplete basically daily...so I drove most of the time in a damn 4 cyl. heavy & big X5. After the software update, I would be in pure 4 cyl. gas mode within mins!

It was very, very rare for me to not have a 0 or almost 0 battery. Only way was to put the 40e in Save mode..but then, that is driving in pure 4 cyl. gas. So, so, so do not miss the 40e!!!
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I charge it only overnight and I get about 32 mpg, is that what you were getting? I need the hybrid engine to keep the hybrid tag for HOV lane exemption.
The X5 40e does not qualify in California for the HOV lane The i3 does. Mercedes S550e does too. Part of our HOV qualifications are how long the hybrid battery has factory warranty. X5 40e is well below most other plug in hybrids!!
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The 4cyl without the battery sucks, but when everything is running correctly, the battery never goes to zero completely, you still have some battery boost.
Even before I had "The Recall Update", with a lot of city driving, my hybrid battery would deplete basically daily...so I drove most of the time in a damn 4 cyl. heavy & big X5. After the software update, I would be in pure 4 cyl. gas mode within mins!

It was very, very rare for me to not have a 0 or almost 0 battery. Only way was to put the 40e in Save mode..but then, that is driving in pure 4 cyl. gas. So, so, so do not miss the 40e!!!
Yes, the 4cyl unassisted on this car is scary. I wrote about that here. I wouldn't try to pass on a two lane with just the 4cyl.
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The X5 40e does not qualify in California for the HOV lane The i3 does. Mercedes S550e does too. Part of our HOV qualifications are how long the hybrid battery has factory warranty. X5 40e is well below most other plug in hybrids!!
In NY, 40e isn't for HOV, either.

With BMW, only these cars are ok -
BMW 1 Series Active E, model year 2011
BMW 530e Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV), model year 2018
BMW 530e xDrive PHEV, model year 2018
BMW i3 BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle), model year 2014 - 2017
BMW i3 REX (Range Extended Battery Electric Vehicle), model year 2014 - 20

https://www.dot.ny.gov/programs/clean-pass

Note: Clean Pass stickers are required for qualifying single occupant hybrid vehicles to use any section of the LIE/HOV system. I really hope they will have better way and don't have to put that sticker on. So ugly.




40e only has $500 rebate in NY State.

https://www.nyserda.ny.gov/All-Progr...e/How-it-Works
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In NY, 40e isn't for HOV, either.

With BMW, only these cars are ok -
BMW 1 Series Active E, model year 2011
BMW 530e Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV), model year 2018
BMW 530e xDrive PHEV, model year 2018
BMW i3 BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle), model year 2014 - 2017
BMW i3 REX (Range Extended Battery Electric Vehicle), model year 2014 - 20

https://www.dot.ny.gov/programs/clean-pass

Note: Clean Pass stickers are required for qualifying single occupant hybrid vehicles to use any section of the LIE/HOV system. I really hope they will have better way and don't have to put that sticker on. So ugly.




40e only has $500 rebate in NY State.

https://www.nyserda.ny.gov/All-Progr...e/How-it-Works

Even here in VA/DC Metro area, the main road I use is 66 and it will lose the hybrid exemption in 2021 when they convert the rest of 66 HOV lanes to ezpass.
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Took it back to the dealer yesterday morning and I have not heard back from them since !
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Saturday the svc rep called and he said German engineers are involved and they're coding one thing at a time in "iwrap" or "irap". To me that's sounded like code you didn't have an appointment and we will get to your car Monday since it's a hybrid and we have no clue we just tying stuff out.
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Well in the past when I coded the car without paddle shifters with the Sport transmission without telling the car there were no paddles it would shift on its own.

Also they're using ISTA P to program it. Just a computer program the dealer uses to program the cars.
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Well in the past when I coded the car without paddle shifters with the Sport transmission without telling the car there were no paddles it would shift on its own.

Also they're using ISTA P to program it. Just a computer program the dealer uses to program the cars.
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Well in the past when I coded the car without paddle shifters with the Sport transmission without telling the car there were no paddles it would shift on its own.

Also they're using ISTA P to program it. Just a computer program the dealer uses to program the cars.
I have to say you are a genius, had you posted your comments before taking my car to the dealer I would have removed Sports+ coding and the problem would have been solved.

I picked the car up today and read the entire report of what they did. Basically they noticed a paddle shifting error (even though it does not have paddle shifters). So instead of just removing the sports+ mode, they programmed it multiple times, and they made sure to stress to me that they did it multiple times, as if they were doing me a favor. They basically took it back to the original configuration, only to remove the sports+ mode. I of course, re did the VO coding (to get the anti glare lighting features) and everything else I had except for sports+, on a hybrid it doesn't make that much of a difference. Needless to say three days at the dealer and driving in the non HOV lane was enough of a hassle for me. Thanks to all who helped and commented here. Things are back to normal now, thankfully, I learned how to code when I leased this car and kept the files on the only PC we have in this Mac family den.
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