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      09-29-2019, 08:06 PM   #89
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I'm not understanding LeClerc at this point. He wasn't even close to keeping up with Vettel's pace. For a rookie, his ego seems to be that of a multiple world champ.
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The supposed swap was a ridiculous joke, way to go Ferrari leaving Vettel out there too long and f'ing up his race (before the mechanical failure of course). Vettel should gtfo of there after this season, retire and go do something else.

"Bring back the xxxxing V12s" - Seb
....pushed the "VETTEL DELETE" button to "correct" VET's appropriate disregard to pull over and allow LEC to pass.
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The supposed swap was a ridiculous joke, way to go Ferrari leaving Vettel out there too long and f'ing up his race (before the mechanical failure of course). Vettel should gtfo of there after this season, retire and go do something else.

"Bring back the xxxxing V12s" - Seb
....pushed the "VETTEL DELETE" button to "correct" VET's appropriate disregard to pull over and allow LEC to pass.
Why would he let him pass when the goal is to push the pace and keep in front of Merc, for a potential Ferrari 1-2? LeClerc was easily 3+ sec behind Vettel from the get go. He wasn't able to keep pace with Seb until Seb's tires started losing grip
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Why would he let him pass when the goal is to push the pace and keep in front of Merc, for a potential Ferrari 1-2? LeClerc was easily 3+ sec behind Vettel from the get go. He wasn't able to keep pace with Seb until Seb's tires started losing grip
Because Ferrari.
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Why would he let him pass when the goal is to push the pace and keep in front of Merc, for a potential Ferrari 1-2? LeClerc was easily 3+ sec behind Vettel from the get go. He wasn't able to keep pace with Seb until Seb's tires started losing grip
Because Ferrari.
I hope Netflix is following Ferrari this year for their next season of Drive to Survive. Would be highly entertaining drama haha
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"When asked if he could understand why Vettel didn’t want to keep to the deal, Binotto replied:'Yeah, I think because anyway, he got such a good start, he overtook Hamilton very soon - even before Turn 1 - so probably in his mind, which is probably right, it wasn’t Charles giving him the slipstream, he took simply the slipstream as he was in that position.'"
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"the rookie Leclerc" you guys are blaming was leading in points and has 19 more points than Vettel right now.. Leclerc has more than everyone, 5 pole positions this season to Vettel's 1.. and more podium finishes..
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Ferrari were protecting themselves at the start. Could you imagine if LC defended like hell and the two came together.... much like Lewis and nico. This way they managed it but still backfired....mainly as Lewis didn't get a good start. Nevertheless the deal was made and typical vettel ignores team orders again!

LC is the future for Ferrari.
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What Ferrari tried to do with its drivers today is nothing compared to what Mercedes did to Bottas last year.

Bring back the F****NG V-12s
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What Ferrari tried to do with its drivers today is nothing compared to what Mercedes did to Bottas last year.

Bring back the F****NG V-12s
..ever since Bottas joined for sure, used like a mop and ppl seem to not see.
It is Bottas who should say ''up yours'' to his wolff in sheeps clothing boss.
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"the rookie Leclerc" you guys are blaming was leading in points and has 19 more points than Vettel right now.. Leclerc has more than everyone, 5 pole positions this season to Vettel's 1.. and more podium finishes..
It is unlikely at this stage that one of the red drivers will pass Ham in the points unless something out of the ordinary happens, so Ferrari are concentrating on wins as Ham is inching in on Schumi's tally.
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LEC will probably take two more wins this year. But I don't see Vet taking any.

And there won't be any more pre-race agreements - because neither are going to stick to the deal. just instructions to not take each other out. Next year, Vet will have #1 status, but we all know that now means nothing.

F1 is a bit more interesting again.
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and also, Karma.

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"the rookie Leclerc" you guys are blaming was leading in points and has 19 more points than Vettel right now.. Leclerc has more than everyone, 5 pole positions this season to Vettel's 1.. and more podium finishes..
Sundays are where the points are not Saturdays. HAM or VET, one of them was going to overtake LEC at torn 2 no matter what. If you're not a cry baby you let your teammate go, keep up with him, build a gap to the Mercs, and if it's ok then you swap. Not go on the radio on a hissy fit. Same thing in Singapore, he backed everyone and when VET pitted he made up more than 3 seconds in one lap. LEC wants to lead every lap, set the pace and fuck Vettel because now hE iS tHE nEXt SChumaCHer 🤡
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Well in the end Charles did eventually get ahead so he can erase some of his earlier comments from lap 2 lol
(Someone should tell him he was going too slowly then).
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Seb is unlikely to get a grid penalty at Suzuka as he has a spare penalty safe MGU-K from earlier.
Masi the Race Director congratulated Seb for parking the car up immediately in such a position that it could easily be pulled back into their 'hole' seing the danger that it could have been live because of loss of insulation.
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Have been listening to a couple of podcasts about the Ferrari race in Sochi.

now the 2 Ferrari drivers will be playing each other with the under-cut, which all the other teams will need to keep in mind with the timing of their own pit stops.

So just because a Ferrari driver is calling out his tires are shot, doesn't mean it's true.
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Have been listening to a couple of podcasts about the Ferrari race in Sochi.

now the 2 Ferrari drivers will be playing each other with the under-cut, which all the other teams will need to keep in mind with the timing of their own pit stops.

So just because a Ferrari driver is calling out his tires are shot, doesn't mean it's true.
It is when his lap times are getting slower. And he started off on soft tires, only 1 team started on mediums I believe. Seb is very good when he’s out front pushing the pace, and his record when out in front speaks for itself.
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The supposed swap was a ridiculous joke, way to go Ferrari leaving Vettel out there too long and f'ing up his race (before the mechanical failure of course). Vettel should gtfo of there after this season, retire and go do something else.

"Bring back the xxxxing V12s" - Seb
They left him out hoping for a safety car.
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In the end I think they deserved 1-2. That is, Ferrari deserved the Mercedes 1-2.
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Have been listening to a couple of podcasts about the Ferrari race in Sochi.

now the 2 Ferrari drivers will be playing each other with the under-cut, which all the other teams will need to keep in mind with the timing of their own pit stops.

So just because a Ferrari driver is calling out his tires are shot, doesn't mean it's true.
It is nothing different to what Ham and Rosberg were doing to each other.
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