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      12-25-2019, 06:24 PM   #1
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X5M Perf Tuning recommendations - Need Help.

NEED YOUR HELP / EXPERIENCE in TUNING!!

New to the Forum, I've researched several threads on which tuning options are best for X5M '16.

I've narrowed my list down to:

1. BM3
2. Velos
3. JB4

Trying to narrow my decision down to one - fews questions.

- what are the benefits of BM3 vs Velos vs JB4
- I'm looking for smooth acceleration
- for the price difference, is Velos worth it.
- which option is safer for my X5M -- my car has 40k miles


Open to feedback or other options. Thanks for your help!!!

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      12-25-2019, 07:00 PM   #2
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I will get the BM3 tune but curious what the rationale is for the Velos time given the higher price (as OP is). Not trying to be critical, just curious. I'm just a lame stage 1 91 octane so take that fwiw.
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You may want to check some of the other more performance-oriented forums like [Admin Notified] (I like how this forum force-censors that forum name... sigh). There is a lot of good discussion looking at logs of different tunes and thoughts. I've built and tuned/had tuned a whole bunch of different platforms. I went with bm3 for my F86 because I like that it is a platform that tons of different tuners use (so besides having great OTS maps, custom is easy), ability to datalog, and ability to grow with me as things change.
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Thx for your info.
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My vote is for bm3

Most don’t understand exactly what bm3 is. Yes it’s a tune but more a platform to tune yourself,
Switch between different tunes, switch to stock, data log. You get a over the shelf tune with you purchase a license from bootmood, it’s a great tune but there are more aggresive and different tunes which are all loaded under you profile in which you can switch within mins yourself.

I bought the tune pack which included 3 extra tunes from bootmod for
My X5m, stage 1, stage 2. And within each tune options for mild and aggressive burble

And big plus is bm3 allows you to transfer the license once which you can get some of your money back when your done with the car




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NEED YOUR HELP / EXPERIENCE in TUNING!!

New to the Forum, I've researched several threads on which tuning options are best for X5M '16.

I've narrowed my list down to:

1. BM3
2. Velos
3. JB4

Trying to narrow my decision down to one - fews questions.

- what are the benefits of BM3 vs Velos vs JB4
- I'm looking for smooth acceleration
- for the price difference, is Velos worth it.
- which option is safer for my X5M -- my car has 40k miles


Open to feedback or other options. Thanks for your help!!!

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I went with bm3 for my F15 N63TU, and I'm very pleased. The key thing they offer is data logging, so you're not just tuning in the dark and making adjustments without any feedback from the engine itself. My results are outstanding - crank horsepower around 630-650 and 0-60 times of 3.5 seconds. This is with their OTS 93-octane map. The only mods are a custom exhaust with an x-pipe (stock downpipes), and F85/86 spark plugs and air filters.
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      12-26-2019, 08:07 PM   #7
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Thx for your help!
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I used to run Racechip but recently change to BM3. The acceleration is smoother.

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Is the increase felt along the entire RPM spectrum or primarily at higher revs? I am assuming most will be felt at higher revs but would be thrilled if the power is noticeable off-the-line and at lower revs.
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Is the increase felt along the entire RPM spectrum or primarily at higher revs? I am assuming most will be felt at higher revs but would be thrilled if the power is noticeable off-the-line and at lower revs.
I have the BM3 and love mine. But this very topic was/is being discussed over on the F10 M5 forums Preventing rods from bending and engine damage. And since we share the same S63TU platform as the F10 guys, OpenFlash has a tune as well. Something to consider in addition to BM3, Velos, And JB4.
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has anyone considered Noelle tuning?
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has anyone considered Noelle tuning?
Did I miss something? I only saw a tune for the N63TU platform.
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has anyone considered Noelle tuning?
Did I miss something? I only saw a tune for the N63TU platform.
Did you look in the M Series section?
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Did you look in the M Series section?

Doh! thanks https://www.noelleperformance.com/m-series/
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Is the increase felt along the entire RPM spectrum or primarily at higher revs? I am assuming most will be felt at higher revs but would be thrilled if the power is noticeable off-the-line and at lower revs.
I have BM3 stage 2 91 octane with catless DP. Power is noticeably increased from 2000rpm up.

I have been reading about rod failure on the F10 M5 performance forum as well in the last couple weeks. Has me a bit nervous about my stage 2 tune. Thought I researched it before buying and didn't see anything negative. Thinking about maybe going to a stage 1 tune or finding someone to custom tune via BM3 and softening the low end.
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Here are a couple dragy runs of before (stock) and after (BM3 st2 91 oct and catless VRSF DP).

Both had high Density Air. Road was wet/slick for the after run (60ft isn't good). I would expect to be into the high 11s with a better launch.
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There's also this thread on the F90 forum:


blown motor. denied warranty. https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1626863
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I went with bm3 for my F15 N63TU, and I'm very pleased. The key thing they offer is data logging, so you're not just tuning in the dark and making adjustments without any feedback from the engine itself. My results are outstanding - crank horsepower around 630-650 and 0-60 times of 3.5 seconds. This is with their OTS 93-octane map. The only mods are a custom exhaust with an x-pipe (stock downpipes), and F85/86 spark plugs and air filters.
How does ur car sound with the catback
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NEED YOUR HELP / EXPERIENCE in TUNING!!

New to the Forum, I've researched several threads on which tuning options are best for X5M '16.

I've narrowed my list down to:

1. BM3
2. Velos
3. JB4

Trying to narrow my decision down to one - fews questions.

- what are the benefits of BM3 vs Velos vs JB4
- I'm looking for smooth acceleration
- for the price difference, is Velos worth it.
- which option is safer for my X5M -- my car has 40k miles


Open to feedback or other options. Thanks for your help!!!

Robert
Have you looked at DME? I am getting their stage 2 with catless downpipes as its my mechanics preferred tuner. His shop helped with their "world record" X5M and has used DME since.
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Bm3 is the way

Contact Halim at HC Performance for your custom tune
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NEED YOUR HELP / EXPERIENCE in TUNING!!

New to the Forum, I've researched several threads on which tuning options are best for X5M '16.

I've narrowed my list down to:

1. BM3
2. Velos
3. JB4

Trying to narrow my decision down to one - fews questions.

- what are the benefits of BM3 vs Velos vs JB4
- I'm looking for smooth acceleration
- for the price difference, is Velos worth it.
- which option is safer for my X5M -- my car has 40k miles


Open to feedback or other options. Thanks for your help!!!

Robert
Have you looked at DME? I am getting their stage 2 with catless downpipes as its my mechanics preferred tuner. His shop helped with their "world record" X5M and has used DME since.
You can request custom tunes from Mo at DME Tuning through Bootmod3 too. It's a little more expensive than getting a canned tune, but custom maps are always better. Just a consideration.
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NEED YOUR HELP / EXPERIENCE in TUNING!!

New to the Forum, I've researched several threads on which tuning options are best for X5M '16.

I've narrowed my list down to:

1. BM3
2. Velos
3. JB4

Trying to narrow my decision down to one - fews questions.

- what are the benefits of BM3 vs Velos vs JB4
- I'm looking for smooth acceleration
- for the price difference, is Velos worth it.
- which option is safer for my X5M -- my car has 40k miles


Open to feedback or other options. Thanks for your help!!!

Robert
Have you looked at DME? I am getting their stage 2 with catless downpipes as its my mechanics preferred tuner. His shop helped with their "world record" X5M and has used DME since.
You can request custom tunes from Mo at DME Tuning through Bootmod3 too. It's a little more expensive than getting a canned tune, but custom maps are always better. Just a consideration.
Interesting. I'll look into that and bring it up to my mechanic. Though he specializes in these tunes with DME so I usually trust his opinion on my ongoing build.
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