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      01-14-2022, 09:10 PM   #1
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Hi, Guys i am new here, Bought X5 M 2015 with 21 inch wheels, i am in Michigan and the moment i drove the car after delivered from Vegas, it skid like hell on snow, i wasn't sure about it then, later realized they are sport tires need to change to winter tires, i am tired asking everyone about sizes and tires, no one have those tires, belle tire guys says i need to change rims and tires for winter, can any one tell me what size would fit to my car and where can i buy rims and tires... thank you
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      01-14-2022, 09:16 PM   #2
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Bmw only has one set for the x5m, they are 611m rims with 285/40/20 which are Scorpion Winter.
Pretty pricey tho. Hope this helps
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      01-14-2022, 11:04 PM   #3
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Hi, Guys i am new here, Bought X5 M 2015 with 21 inch wheels, i am in Michigan and the moment i drove the car after delivered from Vegas, it skid like hell on snow, i wasn't sure about it then, later realized they are sport tires need to change to winter tires, i am tired asking everyone about sizes and tires, no one have those tires, belle tire guys says i need to change rims and tires for winter, can any one tell me what size would fit to my car and where can i buy rims and tires... thank you
I have the 21" OEM wheels too. If you're on the staggered setup as the vehicle was delivered, you can put Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow tires on those wheels.

I have this same setup and they are GOOD, not great. So much better than the Michelin summer tires you have on there now. But nothing will be what you probably want because the tires are too wide. And if you run a smaller wheel/tire setup, then you sacrifice handling in all other weather than snow.

If you decide to use those 21" OEM staggered wheels (again assuming that's what you have), since it's a staggered setup, you need two different tires for the front and two different tires for the rear.

Here is the link to the front tire - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...VR1SCORISXLRFT

Here is the link to the rear tire - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...LRFT&tab=Sizes

Hope that helps. Enjoy your new M!
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      01-15-2022, 12:02 AM   #4
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Welcome to the club. Don't even try using your summer tires in snow/ ice. They are super dangerous. Like Blue said you can get winter tires for your current 21" wheels or get a dedicated winter wheels/tires. I live in upstate NY and I have 20" setup for winter with Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 winter tires (275 40 20, 315 35 20). Keep watching classifieds here and also join F85 F86 Facebook group. People sell winter sets often. Good luck


https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889037
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      01-15-2022, 04:00 AM   #5
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I have the 21" OEM wheels too. If you're on the staggered setup as the vehicle was delivered, you can put Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow tires on those wheels.

I have this same setup and they are GOOD, not great. So much better than the Michelin summer tires you have on there now. But nothing will be what you probably want because the tires are too wide. And if you run a smaller wheel/tire setup, then you sacrifice handling in all other weather than snow.

If you decide to use those 21" OEM staggered wheels (again assuming that's what you have), since it's a staggered setup, you need two different tires for the front and two different tires for the rear.

Here is the link to the front tire - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...VR1SCORISXLRFT

Here is the link to the rear tire - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...LRFT&tab=Sizes

Hope that helps. Enjoy your new M!
This guy in NJ has some Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow for sale.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/895269827229721/permalink/4682060641883935/
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      01-15-2022, 02:29 PM   #6
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Unless you want to run winter tires year round on your current 21's, it's going to be a PITA to keep swapping tires twice a year with the same set of wheels - you're better off finding a dedicated winter wheel/tire setup. There's usually a few sets for sale on this forum, otherwise Offer Up, FB marketplace, Craigslist, etc.

As others have said, those Michelin Pilot Super Sports have no business in ice and snow. Or really even with no snow but really cold temperatures, those tires will turn into rocks and have little grip.

Something like these below is what you need. You'll need at least 19" wheels to clear your brakes.

https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889037

Beautiful purchase BTW, Long Beach Blue looks awesome.
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      01-15-2022, 02:39 PM   #7
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Is it possible to downsize on X5 M? Regardless of staggered set up? If you could tun square set up and 19" that would be best.
In winter narrow is always better. So I would run size that regular X5 runs in square set up in 19". That will also open more tire options. Probably you could get Michelin X-Ice Snow, Bridgestone DM-V2, Continental VikingContact 7 in 19" size.
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      01-15-2022, 04:26 PM   #8
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Hi LiBlueBoss,

Congrats on the new X5M, we are in Brighton, MI (15 miles from you) and have an extra set of of 611m wheels and tires in 20".

DM me and we can chat or shoot an email to Rbb8807@gmail.com

Thanks
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      01-15-2022, 04:39 PM   #9
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Is it possible to downsize on X5 M? Regardless of staggered set up? If you could tun square set up and 19" that would be best.
In winter narrow is always better. So I would run size that regular X5 runs in square set up in 19". That will also open more tire options. Probably you could get Michelin X-Ice Snow, Bridgestone DM-V2, Continental VikingContact 7 in 19" size.
You can downsize. Much better handling in snow to do that. But in my personal experience with my old X5 4.6is terrible handling in any other conditions with the much smaller rear tires. Depends on how you like to drive I guess.
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Is it possible to downsize on X5 M? Regardless of staggered set up? If you could tun square set up and 19" that would be best.
In winter narrow is always better. So I would run size that regular X5 runs in square set up in 19". That will also open more tire options. Probably you could get Michelin X-Ice Snow, Bridgestone DM-V2, Continental VikingContact 7 in 19" size.
You can downsize. Much better handling in snow to do that. But in my personal experience with my old X5 4.6is terrible handling in any other conditions with the much smaller rear tires. Depends on how you like to drive I guess.
On my E70 35d I was running 255/55 R18 snows. No issues, but I do like square set up over staggered in AWD vehicles as it decreases understeer.
I guess 255/50 R19 would be then option for M? I am not sure 18" are going to clear front brakes. He can always run spacers in the back to fill gap a bit.
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      01-16-2022, 09:21 AM   #11
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On my E70 35d I was running 255/55 R18 snows. No issues, but I do like square set up over staggered in AWD vehicles as it decreases understeer.
I guess 255/50 R19 would be then option for M? I am not sure 18" are going to clear front brakes. He can always run spacers in the back to fill gap a bit.
Not really sure... From what I've heard people rumbling about is that 1-2 sizes max. So that would be at least 19". But there are people on here who know a lot more about the technicals than I do.
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On my E70 35d I was running 255/55 R18 snows. No issues, but I do like square set up over staggered in AWD vehicles as it decreases understeer.
I guess 255/50 R19 would be then option for M? I am not sure 18" are going to clear front brakes. He can always run spacers in the back to fill gap a bit.
Not really sure... From what I've heard people rumbling about is that 1-2 sizes max. So that would be at least 19". But there are people on here who know a lot more about the technicals than I do.
Running 255/50 R19 would give him much better snow performance and many more tire options.
I personally on X5 never liked Bridgestone DM-V2 bcs. it has weird lateral ice handling. Put Michelin X-Ice2 Latitude and they were really good.
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Anyone try a square tire set up on the oem x5m rims?? With Front 10" rim and rear 11.5" rim. Please let me know!! Looking to get 295/35/21
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Anyone try a square tire set up on the oem x5m rims?? With Front 10" rim and rear 11.5" rim. Please let me know!! Looking to get 295/35/21
A forum member with a 50i was running 612s with 295/35/21 continentals. You can check with him. This was the thread listing his F15 for sale - https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1688612
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Does anyone know if 491 rims clear front calipers? Want to get a set for winter set up
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      01-16-2022, 10:07 PM   #16
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A forum member with a 50i was running 612s with 295/35/21 continentals. You can check with him. This was the thread listing his F15 for sale - https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1688612
And those are insanely good snow tires too.
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And those are insanely good snow tires too.
Yes, I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 SUV on my F86 for winter setup. 275/315. Best snow tires without a doubt
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And those are insanely good snow tires too.
Yes, I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 SUV on my F86 for winter setup. 275/315. Best snow tires without a doubt
I had 4 sets of Nokian winter tires of probably 40 sets in total so far.
They are OK, and sometimes can be very problematic if run 3-4yrs.
They are very good in two things: snow and ice. But, they are mediocre at best in everything else. They finally resolved to some extent wet performance with R3 as their previous versions were borderline dangerous in those conditions.
They still have issues with balancing which points to inconsistent quality of a structure.
They lose performance dramatically after 2-3yrs and tend to be very loud.
I would always go Continental, Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli before those.
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Running 255/50 R19 would give him much better snow performance and many more tire options.
I personally on X5 never liked Bridgestone DM-V2 bcs. it has weird lateral ice handling. Put Michelin X-Ice2 Latitude and they were really good.
Hey all. I'm new here. Just got the X5M same long beach blue. on summer tires now 20". So, can I go down to 19" or 18" snow tires / wheels? Like the same ones from the E70 X5 V6 would work?

Thanks!
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Hey all. I'm new here. Just got the X5M same long beach blue. on summer tires now 20". So, can I go down to 19" or 18" snow tires / wheels? Like the same ones from the E70 X5 V6 would work?

Thanks!
18's will not clear your ///M brake calipers. OEM 19's will, lots of guys running style 467M with winter tires, those will clear. And not sure which E70 wheel you're referring too?

You could also scrap/sell your 20" summer tires and get some all-seasons, lots of tire options if 20's. Unless you want a dedicated winter tire setup.
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I like the 275/315 21 combo- I run this on my summer set up and winter set up or depending on how bad your winters are, you can get all seasons.
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18's will not clear your ///M brake calipers. OEM 19's will, lots of guys running style 467M with winter tires, those will clear. And not sure which E70 wheel you're referring too?

You could also scrap/sell your 20" summer tires and get some all-seasons, lots of tire options if 20's. Unless you want a dedicated winter tire setup.
Cool, sounds good. thanks! I see a lot of 19" for sale, so I'll probably go with that, I guess the smaller the better for winters then? And, non-staggered is better right?
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