Horner in trouble at Red Bull

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

AI can make your b@lls look like walnuts .

I have no need for AI. I already possess nuts the size of grapefruits

[3798j]

Looking forward to RBR's new car reveal on the 15th.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I have no need for AI. I already possess nuts the size of grapefruits

That sounds very stable. You won't fall easily with your low center of gravity .

[G30M]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I read this earlier and if that's all it is then I'm surprised it has all this publicity.

when i was having my morning coffee, it brought back some memories

i was an army cadet in my high school and there was a feud between teachers in charge - one teacher was the cadet "captain" (the boss), the other teacher was the cadet vice captain (assistant boss).

this feud went on for a couple of years.
one year, on our first day back at school for the year, it was announced that teacher A (the "captain") has been transferred to teach at another school.

we all knew what happened. that teacher B had used his contacts higher up the teaching chain to get him transferred to a different school.

that meant our cadet captaincy became vacant, and teacher B took on the role with immediate effect.

i mean, we were at summer camp just a couple of weeks before school started, and captain was still captain. he was gone in a matter of days. clearly engineered by teacher B.

if teachers can do that, what more a big company like RB, feud between the two captains.

[GuidoK]

Lots of conspiracies on Tacticalrab's F1 gossip channel.
Apparently Marko and even Jos Verstappen are in on it.....
But for sure with Dietrich Mateschitz' passing a power void was left behind. When he was still alive, such strange gossipy situations didn't occur.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

I really dislike one strike and you’re out. It makes everybody walk on egg shells. It creates a culture of telling on others. Nothing good comes out of that.

But if Horner did something of that level, that’s more than a slap on the wrist. He’s the one that settles the example for everybody.

Generally there's also very few "one time" offenders when it comes to stuff like this. Horner is powerful, they usually don't let things get to this level until there's a pattern of behavior. Let's say it was a dick pic, which it may not be, but still as an example I guarantee you this isn't the first time he's behaved in this way. Probably the first one to risk speaking out against someone so powerful.

[3798j]

When Helmut was asked if he is behind the conspiracy his response was...
"Horner has done a great job over the years."

That's Marko's way of saying...
"Tell Christian. I want him to know It was me."

[G30M]

Originally Posted by 3798j

When Helmut was asked if he is behind the conspiracy his response was...
"Horner has done a great job over the years."

That's Marko's way of saying...
"Tell Christian. I want him to know It was me."

"you're fired. nothing personal, it's just business."

anyone old enough?

[G30M]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Lots of conspiracies on Tacticalrab's F1 gossip channel.
Apparently Marko and even Jos Verstappen are in on it.....
But for sure with Dietrich Mateschitz' passing a power void was left behind. When he was still alive, such strange gossipy situations didn't occur.

I'm not surprised. After the Monaco incident, Horner became the sole defender of Perez. Jos hated that week in week out. Jos has a lot of time on his hands.

[G30M]

i wonder if this is about Perez. RB/Marko/Jos wants to get rid of Perez but Horner said no. perhaps.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bu...t-team-warning

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by g21

when i was having my morning coffee, it brought back some memories

i was an army cadet in my high school and there was a feud between teachers in charge - one teacher was the cadet "captain" (the boss), the other teacher was the cadet vice captain (assistant boss).

this feud went on for a couple of years.
one year, on our first day back at school for the year, it was announced that teacher A (the "captain") has been transferred to teach at another school.

we all knew what happened. that teacher B had used his contacts higher up the teaching chain to get him transferred to a different school.

that meant our cadet captaincy became vacant, and teacher B took on the role with immediate effect.

i mean, we were at summer camp just a couple of weeks before school started, and captain was still captain. he was gone in a matter of days. clearly engineered by teacher B.

if teachers can do that, what more a big company like RB, feud between the two captains.

In my time it would have been sorted out in the bike sheds at the back.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by g21

"you're fired. nothing personal, it's just business."

anyone old enough?

Yup.

"Everything's personal, if you're a person."

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Yup.

"Everything's personal, if you're a person."

Saying "it's nothing personal" is like saying "with all due respect", it's usually quite the opposite.

[Killed by Death]

I didn't know Helmut was that powerful.

Isn't he just a glorified driver coach / talent scout

I wouldn't even consider getting rid of CH unless this accusation turns into a MASSIVE problem. He is the best TP in the business IMHO.

IF fired he would look good in Ferrari Red too

[3798j]

"Motor Sport Total.com have inferred that the Brit has not seen eye-to-eye with Verstappen senior for some time, and even alleged that it is 'probably no coincidence' that the 'inappropriate behaviour' allegations were first reported by Dutch media."
No surprise this sleazy individual is involved.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...badly-damaged/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I didn't know Helmut was that powerful.

Isn't he just a glorified driver coach / talent scout

I wouldn't even consider getting rid of CH unless this accusation turns into a MASSIVE problem. He is the best TP in the business IMHO.

IF fired he would look good in Ferrari Red too

How on earth did the media/news get hold of it if it's an 'internal matter', someone in RB obviously tipped them off,, err...any comment Marko

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

How on earth did the media/news get hold of it if it's an 'internal matter', someone in RB obviously tipped them off,, err...any comment Marko

But what does he have to gain? Who else would he or Jos want as TP

Makes no sense to me

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

But what does he have to gain? Who else would he or Jos want as TP

Makes no sense to me

Just because CH supports Checo and he's not that close with the Vestappen family I can't see that as a reason for Jos to grass to the press if he somehow knew, if Marko told him then it would be against company procedures with Jos nothing to do with RBR.
My suspicion is someone in the firm GIT with the paper in Holland, for money.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Just because CH supports Checo and he's not that close with the Vestappen family I can't see that as a reason for Jos to grass to the press if he somehow knew, if Marko told him then it would be against company procedures with Jos nothing to do with RBR.
My suspicion is someone in the firm GIT with the paper in Holland, for money.

But Jos should love Checo...Zero competition for his son

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

But Jos should love Checo...Zero competition for his son

Absolutely! Jos has no reason at all, in fact he should buy him a Stella for backing up Max on the track

[3798j]

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[Marcoose]

If this is an internal power-grab spat, and it results in losing Horner and why not Newey and other brains, say, to Ferrari, that’d be the stupidest move in a generation. Kiss bye-bye to breaking Hamilton’s record.

I’d like to think Marko, Jos, etc, aren’t that stupid.