F15 X6 6WB Digital Display Gauge Cluster Retrofit (Installation Guide and Pictures)

[RED_Y_]

Originally Posted by KDKE30

Yes, shure, i coded hu_nbt and also combi.

Did it help?

[KDKE30]

Originally Posted by RED_Y_

Did it help?

I'm sorry, I said it wrong. The first thing I did when I saw that navi tips do not work is coded hu nbt and kombi

[RED_Y_]

Originally Posted by KDKE30

I'm sorry, I said it wrong. The first thing I did when I saw that navi tips do not work is coded hu nbt and kombi

Can you provide more details?You had 6WA cluster and HUD, was it working before? Is your 6WB cluster got your car mileage and everything else is working? Did you add 6WB to your FA?

[KDKE30]

Yes, the car had 6WA and HUD before, I don't know if navi tips were displayed because 6WB was retrofited in the salon where I bought the car. I Don't know is navi tips were displayed after retrofit because I did not use navigation. 6WB works from the beginning without a problem, there is a mileage of the car etc. Notifications chek control, choice of multimedia etc. is displayed on 6WB or HUD depending on what I set in the idrive menu. Navi tips can be set to display together on 6WB and HUD, maybe here is the problem? I don't know if this is the case with chek control notifications because I am outside the house with another car. It is added to FA. Some time ago I bought an enet cable and esys program and at the beginning I didn't know there were "ready" code on the right in esys like Almaretto and I was manually looking for different coding options. Maybe that's when I changed something. Just after buying the cable I updated the maps and saw that navi tips do not display on 6WB or HUD.

[RED_Y_]

And you HUD is working right now showing you speed, speed limit etc?
Also

Try to FDL code KOMBI_CIC: change from kombi_mid to kombi_high. This is located in HU_NBT

If this doesn't help I would suggest just going through the coding all over again and repeat every step again.

[KDKE30]

Originally Posted by RED_Y_

And you HUD is working right now showing you speed, speed limit etc?
Also

If this doesn't help I would suggest just going through the coding all over again and repeat every step again.

Yes, HUD shows the speed, speed limit, etc. Unfortunately, the KOMBI_CIC values ​​are not available in the HU_NBT module. I sat for a while with esys and tried to change different values ​​in D_KOMBI, and finally navi tips pops up but only on 6WB, not on HUD. Even if I set pops up on HUD on idrive and off on 6WB, I still pops up only on 6WB. I don't remember which parameter I changed but I have pictures, will you give me your settings for these values?

[RED_Y_]

Just keep in mind that with 6WB you can only have navigation on one device- cluster or HUD. If your HUD turned off- it will display navigation instructions on the cluster and vice versa. Also check the I-drive settings again. Are you sure you VO coded HU_NBT?
Connect => Read FA => Activate FA => Read VCM => Right-Click on HU_NBT (the ECU itself not the CAFD) => Select CODE.
I am not that advanced with coding to know every parameter in e-sys, and personally I wouldn't push random buttons since you can make things worse.

[DenBel]

Do I need to add 6wb to VO? Or just following the steps in OP is enough? Thanks

[RED_Y_]

Originally Posted by DenBel

Do I need to add 6wb to VO? Or just following the steps in OP is enough? Thanks

First step in OP

STEP 1 (CODING): Add 6WB to FA through ESYS - Add 6WB to your FA in the SALAPA folder following the VO Coding Guide

[DenBel]

Originally Posted by RED_Y_

First step in OP

My bad, was looking at step 3 only(((
Thanks

[DenBel]

Another issue, ‘detect caf for swe’ is grayed out.
ESYS 3.27.1 PSdZData light. Anyone had this issue?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by DenBel

Another issue, ‘detect caf for swe’ is grayed out.
ESYS 3.27.1 PSdZData light. Anyone had this issue?

Injecting CAFD (Detect CAF for SWE) and Flashing ECU's with >= v.4.17.20 PSdZData requires using newer E-Sys 3.30.0 or higher.

[DenBel]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Injecting CAFD (Detect CAF for SWE) and Flashing ECU's with >= v.4.17.20 PSdZData requires using newer E-Sys 3.30.0 or higher.

Thank you!

[DenBel]

So everything worked out fine! Thank you guys for pointing me in right direction!
Also here is the link of the guy who virginized the cluster for me:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-6WB-6WA...77fd%7Ciid%3A1

[panxiaoyan]

anyone in australia done this before ? i bout to get a f15 soon and thinking of changing it to wb6 since that the only thing that the car doesnt have . is bimmertech selling this wb6 are the genuniue product from bmw ?

what if i purchase a second hand 6wb cluster , will that work as well ?

And also the factory f15 that came with 6wb , will the Navi shown on both hud and the cluster or same as the retrofit , only one way or another ? Any advice will be good

[MK2018]

Originally Posted by panxiaoyan

anyone in australia done this before ? i bout to get a f15 soon and thinking of changing it to wb6 since that the only thing that the car doesnt have . is bimmertech selling this wb6 are the genuniue product from bmw ?

what if i purchase a second hand 6wb cluster , will that work as well ?

And also the factory f15 that came with 6wb , will the Navi shown on both hud and the cluster or same as the retrofit , only one way or another ? Any advice will be good

Factory 6WB shows only in one at the time

[K-Bed]

All,

this seemed like a good place to start - if i should be posting somewhere else let me know - hopefully someone is still reading this!

I recently had a 6wb cluster replaced (August 2019 second hand) as the perspex formed a crack. At the time everything seemed okay. I have just taken the car in for a service, and the Mechanic attempted to use the odometer reset button for the service and brakes, but then realized the button was not working properly (we never touch this button). He offered to take the cluster out and try and fix it, but once he got the cluster out he put it right back in, as he said it had looked like a dodgy second hand cluster and he didn't want to work on it.

I am hoping to get photos this week. But i also wanted to confirm a couple of things.

Does the odometer button need to be working to reprogram a second hand cluster, or is this all done through the cable?

Is it possible to identify the cluster by serial number and if it was original to the car? - i feel like they replaced the perspex to the old cluster so they wouldn't have to reprogram.

If the button can't be fixed, i may be in for another replacement cluster, and it sounds like bimmertech is the way to go. Or i just bite the bullet and get BMW to do it. So much for trying to save a bit of money. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

[RED_Y_]

Originally Posted by Kbeddis

All,

this seemed like a good place to start - if i should be posting somewhere else let me know - hopefully someone is still reading this!

I recently had a 6wb cluster replaced (August 2019 second hand) as the perspex formed a crack. At the time everything seemed okay. I have just taken the car in for a service, and the Mechanic attempted to use the odometer reset button for the service and brakes, but then realized the button was not working properly (we never touch this button). He offered to take the cluster out and try and fix it, but once he got the cluster out he put it right back in, as he said it had looked like a dodgy second hand cluster and he didn't want to work on it.

I am hoping to get photos this week. But i also wanted to confirm a couple of things.

Does the odometer button need to be working to reprogram a second hand cluster, or is this all done through the cable?

Is it possible to identify the cluster by serial number and if it was original to the car? - i feel like they replaced the perspex to the old cluster so they wouldn't have to reprogram.

If the button can't be fixed, i may be in for another replacement cluster, and it sounds like bimmertech is the way to go. Or i just bite the bullet and get BMW to do it. So much for trying to save a bit of money. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

When you say it was replaced, was it replaced by dealer under warranty? Or someone did it for you? To answer your questions- there are no additional coding/reprogramming needed for the button, usually last 7 digits of VIN are saved to the cluster but with retrofit ( if done properly) your last 7 would be written. So unless your car wasn't equipped with 6WB from the factory there is no way to tell if this cluster belongs to your car (only if it has manufacturing stamps/stickers on the back of the cluster are far apart from your car manufacture date). Both bimmer tech and BMW are very expensive. Its easier to get one off ebay.

[K-Bed]

Red_Y_ Thanks for the responses.

The car had a 6WB originally. I had a mechanic do it for me as it was out of warranty. I called around to a few places before i found someone that was able to do it. They got the second hand cluster from a wrecker in Melbourne and replaced. Was more economical vs BMW.

Other then the left hand cluster reset button everything is working fine. If i play with the button i can get the information on the rev portion(identification - Conv. Index 41733 1/km SWFl1 etc. Photo i have is blurry and i can't get it up all the time), but the button doesn't react again or spring back to be pushed again. Same for a brake service reset i can press and hold and sometime the option comes up, but then the button won't react again.

The actual mechanic that replaced it is going to look at it, but likely they are going to respond that it is a second hand cluster so tough luck. Just trying to build a case before having to fork out the $$ again for another cluster.

I don't have the confidence etc. to code. Hence Bimmertech.

Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

[RED_Y_]

Since you got it used there is a chance that it was broken when it you got it first and sounds like it is just a sticky button you have there, if that's the only issue with this cluster why bother with another one? You can reset service interval using easys cable and ISTA.

[K-Bed]

Good point, I thought they would have checked it for functionality.

With regards to easys cable and ISTA is there a thread for this? I have no experience connecting to cars. Might be the best way forward to save some $$ - Can you also code service to the electronic log book?

[leo95se]

Anyone know how to, or have a resource for firmware updates? Mine came with 2014 firmware, IIRC. I don’t see nav directions on it, as an example.

Thx!