Brake Squeal

carks · 07-15-2018, 06:08 PM

the squeal is inevitable! It will come and go, so be prepared to be episodically frustrated and then it disappears. My suggestion is to accept the occasional noise for the idea that you are driving something special. I know that sounds lame, but it's what I tell my family.

BMWOO7 · 07-15-2018, 06:59 PM

I'm sure this has already been posted several times, but the BMW service department clearly doesn't want to hear about our issues with loud brakes.

I took my 2015 BMW X5M in for service last week and when the SA was asking me if there was anything else I wanted looked at, I just mentioned the loud brakes and I could instantly see the look on his face change to "oh no, here we go again", to which he commented that this is 'normal' for an M car with performance brakes.

The only thing thats 'somewhat' stopped it for me is washing the wheels and it'll stop for a short while, but it comes back soon after that...

PatrickC23 · 07-17-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWOO7

I'm sure this has already been posted several times, but the BMW service department clearly doesn't want to hear about our issues with loud brakes.

I took my 2015 BMW X5M in for service last week and when the SA was asking me if there was anything else I wanted looked at, I just mentioned the loud brakes and I could instantly see the look on his face change to "oh no, here we go again", to which he commented that this is 'normal' for an M car with performance brakes.

The only thing thats 'somewhat' stopped it for me is washing the wheels and it'll stop for a short while, but it comes back soon after that...

The remedy for my squeaky brakes arrives in 10 months, in the form of my lease return. To be honest, Im used to it now, maybe since I know its going back. Rest of the X5M is superb though.

Maverik259 · 07-17-2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by v8twinturbo

I had the same issue with my X6M F86. Went to two different dealerships before they finally gave me new rotors and pads. First dealership Took out the brake pads and clean them .did a test drive and told me there was no issue. A week later the brakes started squeaking again. And Then I decided to contact the dealership that I picked up my vehicle from. They had the vehicle for about three days. My service advisor calls me and tells me that they have no choice but to give me new rotors and new pads all around because the first time the issue was not corrected. i haven't had a squeak since

Which dealership u went to? does it squel now? how many miles you have on the new brakes? any more problems?

Just spray some wd40 on them. Boom squeal gone!

Crumbs · 07-18-2018, 03:43 PM

Squeal sucks on such an expensive vehicle.

DuSh · 07-20-2018, 10:59 PM

Looking myself to try some softer pads to avoid squealing (even if softer pads will wear x2-3 times faster). I have f85 rotor and E70 X5M calipers - oem M pads are horrible. Going to order something soon. At this point I'll gladly compromise pads life for some silence.

X5M_RoOkIE · 07-22-2018, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DuSh

Looking myself to try some softer pads to avoid squealing (even if softer pads will wear x2-3 times faster). I have f85 rotor and E70 X5M calipers - oem M pads are horrible. Going to order something soon. At this point I'll gladly compromise pads life for some silence.

maybe we can change the brake system to another brake?

pachieh · 07-22-2018, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by X5M_RoOkIE

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Originally Posted by DuSh

Looking myself to try some softer pads to avoid squealing (even if softer pads will wear x2-3 times faster). I have f85 rotor and E70 X5M calipers - oem M pads are horrible. Going to order something soon. At this point I'll gladly compromise pads life for some silence.

maybe we can change the brake system to another brake?

You could throw Brembos on and see if that fixes it... But that is around $4k, not sure the squeal is work a $4k fix...

X5M_RoOkIE · 07-23-2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pachieh

You could throw Brembos on and see if that fixes it... But that is around $4k, not sure the squeal is work a $4k fix...

lol anyone tried it?

PatrickC23 · 07-23-2018, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by X5M_RoOkIE

lol anyone tried it?

I think ours our made by Brembo - I know for a fact another member here swapped to a different type of pad, but it did not help.

EDIT - read page 3 and 4 of this thread, JNosol was the member that tried just about everything, no remedies. I gave up a long time ago, will just turn it in in May, but it will be a deciding factor in what my wife gets next.

ep99 · 07-23-2018, 06:13 PM

I thought I have reply to this before.
And yes, it is annoying that an expensive SUV has brake pads that sound like they are on their last leg.

The way it was explained to me by the lead technician.
And we did go out for a ride together.
The squeal noise is kind of tough to ignore.

But after a few rides around the block.
It went away.
That is as soon as the brake pads heat up from use.

The brake pads no longer has Asbestos in them.
Due to health issue when servicing.
They are now either ceramic or metallic.

And when they are cold...it makes that grinding noise.
So morning start or even coming off the highway.
It will tends to be at its worst.

Apple Corps · 07-23-2018, 07:39 PM

ep99 - the question that comes to mind is that NO brake pads have asbestos in them today - all are metallic or ceramic (or whatever) - so why don't all brakes squeal - high performance or not?

DuSh · 07-23-2018, 10:58 PM

Lol so I have to now find some asbestos brakes. That's why I thought some cheap knock-off pads might be actually quiet. But if JNosol tried a lot of them and still no solution - then I don't know.

ep99 · 07-26-2018, 03:56 PM

Not sure about other performance brakes.
I have owned two X6M before.
2013 one...no brake issue except for a known battery problem.
2016...squeal like a SOB from day one.
Just picked up a 2018 X6M last week.
I thought I have heard squealing...doesn't sound like BMW care about fixing this ignoring issue to the owners.

X5M_RoOkIE · 07-27-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ep99

Not sure about other performance brakes.
I have owned two X6M before.
2013 one...no brake issue except for a known battery problem.
2016...squeal like a SOB from day one.
Just picked up a 2018 X6M last week.
I thought I have heard squealing...doesn't sound like BMW care about fixing this ignoring issue to the owners.

That SUCKS! Sorry to hear that

pachieh · 07-28-2018, 07:28 AM

Somewhere in here there is a video that someone linked from Porsche explaining why performance brakes squeal from resonating... guess enough owners complained that they made a video to tell them to buzz off!

Found it!

Kief · 07-28-2018, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pachieh

Somewhere in here there is a video that someone linked from Porsche explaining why performance brakes squeal from resonating... guess enough owners complained that they made a video to tell them to buzz off!

Found it!

Thanks for posting.
You guys sorta have me worried about this squeal. Hopefully my wife doesn't become annoyed with the sound. We pick up on Tuesday.

pachieh · 07-28-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kief

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Originally Posted by pachieh

Somewhere in here there is a video that someone linked from Porsche explaining why performance brakes squeal from resonating... guess enough owners complained that they made a video to tell them to buzz off!

Found it!

Thanks for posting.
You guys sorta have me worried about this squeal. Hopefully my wife doesn't become annoyed with the sound. We pick up on Tuesday.

You get used to it. Keep your brakes clean (spray them out when washing) and buy a louder exhaust.

onfireX5 · 07-28-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kief

Thanks for posting.
You guys sorta have me worried about this squeal. Hopefully my wife doesn't become annoyed with the sound. We pick up on Tuesday.

It’s not a big deal. Goes away with every wash. Minor trade off for awesome, safe braking.

yewlock · 07-28-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pachieh

You get used to it. Keep your brakes clean (spray them out when washing) and buy a louder exhaust.

No wonder I can not hear anything beside OOOMP

andrewcflint · 07-28-2018, 05:23 PM

I have a 2018 X5M and the brakes definitely squeel until they warm up a bit. You get used to it.

SNAGuy · 07-28-2018, 08:13 PM

Surprisingly unless I'm really used to it, since I had my front breaks done (around 40k miles) I haven't heard much squealing.

07-15-2018, 06:08 PM	#89
carks Enlisted Member 20 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW X5 M Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (0)	the squeal is inevitable! It will come and go, so be prepared to be episodically frustrated and then it disappears. My suggestion is to accept the occasional noise for the idea that you are driving something special. I know that sounds lame, but it's what I tell my family.
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BMWOO7 BMW CCA #505303 43 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 2015 X5M / 2013 SVT Raptor Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	I'm sure this has already been posted several times, but the BMW service department clearly doesn't want to hear about our issues with loud brakes. I took my 2015 BMW X5M in for service last week and when the SA was asking me if there was anything else I wanted looked at, I just mentioned the loud brakes and I could instantly see the look on his face change to "oh no, here we go again", to which he commented that this is 'normal' for an M car with performance brakes. The only thing thats 'somewhat' stopped it for me is washing the wheels and it'll stop for a short while, but it comes back soon after that... __________________ 2015 BMW X5M F85 ///M
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Crumbs First Lieutenant 192 Rep 306 Posts Drives: 2018 F85 X5M Mineral White Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Squeal sucks on such an expensive vehicle.
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DuSh Colonel 2114 Rep 2,388 Posts Drives: F15 X5 50i Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Looking myself to try some softer pads to avoid squealing (even if softer pads will wear x2-3 times faster). I have f85 rotor and E70 X5M calipers - oem M pads are horrible. Going to order something soon. At this point I'll gladly compromise pads life for some silence.
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ep99 Second Lieutenant 41 Rep 200 Posts Drives: 2024 M4 Competition xDrive Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I thought I have reply to this before. And yes, it is annoying that an expensive SUV has brake pads that sound like they are on their last leg. The way it was explained to me by the lead technician. And we did go out for a ride together. The squeal noise is kind of tough to ignore. But after a few rides around the block. It went away. That is as soon as the brake pads heat up from use. The brake pads no longer has Asbestos in them. Due to health issue when servicing. They are now either ceramic or metallic. And when they are cold...it makes that grinding noise. So morning start or even coming off the highway. It will tends to be at its worst.
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07-23-2018, 07:39 PM	#100
Apple Corps First Lieutenant 114 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 2018 X5 M Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California iTrader: (0)	ep99 - the question that comes to mind is that NO brake pads have asbestos in them today - all are metallic or ceramic (or whatever) - so why don't all brakes squeal - high performance or not?
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DuSh Colonel 2114 Rep 2,388 Posts Drives: F15 X5 50i Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Lol so I have to now find some asbestos brakes. That's why I thought some cheap knock-off pads might be actually quiet. But if JNosol tried a lot of them and still no solution - then I don't know.
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07-26-2018, 03:56 PM	#102
ep99 Second Lieutenant 41 Rep 200 Posts Drives: 2024 M4 Competition xDrive Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Not sure about other performance brakes. I have owned two X6M before. 2013 one...no brake issue except for a known battery problem. 2016...squeal like a SOB from day one. Just picked up a 2018 X6M last week. I thought I have heard squealing...doesn't sound like BMW care about fixing this ignoring issue to the owners.
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07-28-2018, 07:28 AM	#104
pachieh Captain 244 Rep 637 Posts Drives: '17 X5M Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Somewhere in here there is a video that someone linked from Porsche explaining why performance brakes squeal from resonating... guess enough owners complained that they made a video to tell them to buzz off! Found it! __________________ 2017 X5M, Donnington Grey, Aragon Brown Eisenmann Pro, Dinan Intake, BM3 Stage 1, XHP Stage 3 21" Vossen VFS-1 on Michelin PSS
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andrewcflint Registered 2 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2018 X5 M Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: CALIFORNIA iTrader: (0)	I have a 2018 X5M and the brakes definitely squeel until they warm up a bit. You get used to it.
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07-28-2018, 08:13 PM	#110
SNAGuy Second Lieutenant 91 Rep 222 Posts Drives: 2015 X5M Join Date: May 2015 Location: Orange Co CA iTrader: (0)	Surprisingly unless I'm really used to it, since I had my front breaks done (around 40k miles) I haven't heard much squealing.
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