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      03-30-2019, 07:21 AM   #1
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Summer tire swap?

I have a very rare few hours to myself today. Debating if I should make the swap to summer setup. Thoughts?
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Same situation here... In the past I have always installed winter set up the weekend before Thanksgiving and removed the weekend after St. Patrick's Day but over the last few decades the weather in our area has changed dramatically and it has become quite a crap-shoot resulting in having winter tires for Easter. Long story short, my new guide line is temps average 45 degrees or more for nine days or more I swap out.
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Lol...I am changing my today. Dont think we will get any snow in PA. 70 today....finally
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For me, it's when ambient temps start to stay consistently above 45į F (not just the high temps but the low temps). And its not just about impending "snow"...but when temps are cold...the rubber compound hardens on my summer tires so if its cold and raining, or just cold...they don't do a good job when stopping or handling (turning)...as well as acceleration.

The temps listed by the OP seem to be edging upward where their summer or all season tires could handle the ambient temps and weather conditions.
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For me, it's when ambient temps start to stay consistently above 45į F (not just the high temps but the low temps). And its not just about impending "snow"...but when temps are cold...the rubber compound hardens on my summer tires so if its cold and raining, or just cold...they don't do a good job when stopping or handling (turning)...as well as acceleration.

The temps listed by the OP seem to be edging upward where their summer or all season tires could handle the ambient temps and weather conditions.
Annoying itís right on the edge. I donít want the 60 degree day weather to wear out my winters fast and donít want to drive on summers when itís too cold in the morning. Canít win!!
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Much like the markets you will never pick the best time to get in and out. There is no way around it so you will either be too early or too late or get lucky one season.
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I changed mine out last Thursday, southeast PA
And changed out my M3CS the week before.
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I swapped mine today, it felt like mid-summer here in new england at 67 degrees!
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Swapped mine two weeks ago here in upper Maryland. As long as it's not consistently below 37, shouldn't be an issue.
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Torque is 105 right?
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Officially spring!!!
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This will be the first time I switch from winters back to summers. I use Torque spec 140 nm = 103 lbs/ft. 45° average seems about the right number. Still some 30's at night on Long Island for me. Given my winter rims are hotter than my OEM's, I have not been in a rush. Plus I'm waiting for my H&R 15mm spacers to arrive

Winter vs Summer...
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I'm never in a rush to swap and have waited until mid-April the past few years. We just got snow overnight here in SW PA after several days of mid-60 weather.
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I'm never in a rush to swap and have waited until mid-April the past few years. We just got snow overnight here in SW PA after several days of mid-60 weather.
Ditto here in northeast Indiana. It rained just about all day Saturday (almost 2" of rain)...then around 4pm...big pieces of snow began falling with the rain as the temps started droppping from the upper 40s. I was out and about and pulled into the garage around 6 pm and it was just a mix of rain and slush.

But when I woke up Sunday morning...there was a layer of snow on the grass, shrubs, and trees...but the streets were bone dry. The sun was shining bright but the temperature was around 25į F.
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Wow I forgot how nice the car handles on these tires. My winters are fine, but I notice a significant difference in the feel of the car in a positive way.
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Here in NY I will be doing it on Friday 4/5. I do believe that is the best day for it. Friday will be 45 degrees and everyday after looks like in the 60s.
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Wow I forgot how nice the car handles on these tires. My winters are fine, but I notice a significant difference in the feel of the car in a positive way.
Nice wheels!

Are your winters the 20" square set?

I bought the black 612s from Kief and can't wait to put them on. This will be the first time I'm running 21s, other than the two weeks or so I had them on when I first took delivery in October. I'm a little nervous with the shitty roads and the 21s. Although, pothole patrol is in full swing now so hopefully by the time I switch the world will be right.
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Nice wheels!

Are your winters the 20" square set?

I bought the black 612s from Kief and can't wait to put them on. This will be the first time I'm running 21s, other than the two weeks or so I had them on when I first took delivery in October. I'm a little nervous with the shitty roads and the 21s. Although, pothole patrol is in full swing now so hopefully by the time I switch the world will be right.
You will love the black 612s.

My winter setup is 275/40/20 square setup with Pirelli Scorpion Winters. I have major potholes around me as well and I don't notice much of a difference between 20/21. I missed the 325 steam rollers in the rear
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You will love the black 612s.

My winter setup is 275/40/20 square setup with Pirelli Scorpion Winters. I have major potholes around me as well and I don't notice much of a difference between 20/21. I missed the 325 steam rollers in the rear
I ordered 20s but got 21s by mistake. I was surprised at the ride. I thought the 21s would be jarring. I run the 285 square set up with Pirellis for winter and yes, I miss those monster rears.

I did a convoluted 3 way sale - sold my silver 612s and bought the black. I think they're going to look sweet on my DG with blacked out kidney and side grills/gills.
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