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      06-29-2014, 08:34 AM   #199
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I read this thread from start to finish today. So much emotion and information.

Thanks tony20009 for his informative posts as usual and being so articulate.

What about diamonds? Most people will not be able to tell fake from real at a distance. Some will be able to tell if wearing magnification loupes. They both 'perform' the same.

My wife would sometimes ask me: Why do we bother buying real? We can afford it and no one will really know.

My answer is: I know!
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I read this thread from start to finish today. So much emotion and information.

Thanks tony20009 for his informative posts as usual and being so articulate.


What about diamonds? Most people will not be able to tell fake from real at a distance. Some will be able to tell if wearing magnification loupes. They both 'perform' the same.

My wife would sometimes ask me: Why do we bother buying real? We can afford it and no one will really know.

My answer is: I know!
+1, lots of good stuff in here.

I picked up a fake rolex in Pakistan for roughly 100 bucks and it's been working fine for the last 4-5 years. It's my daily while I keep my authentic ones in my box , ready for the next occasion. It's an automatic movement, too. I couldn't tell you the absolute specifics, but it keeps decent time. Honestly, since it's my daily wearing watch, I don't mind adjusting it once or twice a week.

Sometimes I'll switch things up and wear a Luminox Valjoux.
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+1, lots of good stuff in here.

I picked up a fake rolex in Pakistan for roughly 100 bucks and it's been working fine for the last 4-5 years. It's my daily while I keep my authentic ones in my box , ready for the next occasion. It's an automatic movement, too. I couldn't tell you the absolute specifics, but it keeps decent time. Honestly, since it's my daily wearing watch, I don't mind adjusting it once or twice a week.

Sometimes I'll switch things up and wear a Luminox Valjoux.
See if had the real thing and fake I wouldn't wear the fake at all unless I was going on vacation or the ghetto and was worried about loss.
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See if had the real thing and fake I wouldn't wear the fake at all unless I was going on vacation or the ghetto and was worried about loss.
I definitely don't bring my real watches anywhere too far from home or anywhere I would have to take it off. I didn't bring my real ones to Vegas for M fest, lol. I took my Luminox and this daily one.
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I didn't read this whole thread so I'm not sure where most people's' opinion fell. My general position is quality over quantity any day. Shouldn't a fake watch receive the same derision a fake M3 receives on this forum? There are many ways to be a poser. More importantly, is the theft of intellectual property acceptable to those who buy fakes? Sure you can get your fake Rolex in a backwater like Pakistan or the streets of New York for $100 but it's the folks who get fooled into thinking they are buying the real thing who incur the most damage. Like the preying tactics of payday loan companies, there are many people on the planet without the acumen to do their due diligence on a purchase and the more crooks there are ripping off other's intellectual property the worse the market is for all of us. I just personally think wearing anything fake in an attempt to boost your ego or other people's opinion of you only speaks poorly about the person wearing the fakes of any item. Keeping up with the Joneses is no way to go through life and if you're wearing fake items like Rolex's or mortgaging your life to drive a BMW then you're all flash and no substance.
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I didn't read this whole thread so I'm not sure where most people's' opinion fell. My general position is quality over quantity any day. Shouldn't a fake watch receive the same derision a fake M3 receives on this forum? There are many ways to be a poser. More importantly, is the theft of intellectual property acceptable to those who buy fakes? Sure you can get your fake Rolex in a backwater like Pakistan or the streets of New York for $100 but it's the folks who get fooled into thinking they are buying the real thing who incur the most damage. Like the preying tactics of payday loan companies, there are many people on the planet without the acumen to do their due diligence on a purchase and the more crooks there are ripping off other's intellectual property the worse the market is for all of us. I just personally think wearing anything fake in an attempt to boost your ego or other people's opinion of you only speaks poorly about the person wearing the fakes of any item. Keeping up with the Joneses is no way to go through life and if you're wearing fake items like Rolex's or mortgaging your life to drive a BMW then you're all flash and no substance.
I bought mine, like I've said earlier, to preserve my real ones. I commented in the other thread that replacement costs outweigh wearing my real ones everyday.
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I bought mine, like I've said earlier, to preserve my real ones. I commented in the other thread that replacement costs outweigh wearing my real ones everyday.
So your ego requires you have a Rolex-branded watch on your wrist to preserve your real Rolex watches? Why not just buy a cheaper real watch that respects intellectual property rights? Unless it's all about ego and image of course. In this case it sounds like its important for you to have people think you're wearing a real Rolex. Also, I've owned nice watches for years and wear one everyday. None of them are damaged. What exactly are all these fake watch owners doing while wearing a watch that makes them need a fake watch to protect the real one?
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So your ego requires you have a Rolex-branded watch on your wrist to preserve your real Rolex watches? Why not just buy a cheaper real watch that respects intellectual property rights? Unless it's all about ego and image of course. In this case it sounds like its important for you to have people think you're wearing a real Rolex. Also, I've owned nice watches for years and wear one everyday. None of them are damaged. What exactly are all these fake watch owners doing while wearing a watch that makes them need a fake watch to protect the real one?
Uhhh because its a 100 dollar automatic watch and I was already in Pakistan? Why are you so mad, bro?
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See if had the real thing and fake I wouldn't wear the fake at all unless I was going on vacation or the ghetto and was worried about loss.
You would wear it in the ghetto? Why get robed for a fake watch. I would not ware anything in a ghetto.
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You would wear it in the ghetto? Why get robed for a fake watch. I would not ware anything in a ghetto.
Sorry I dont have a fake anymore. Would just wear a Hamilton or tissot or something if working in a worse area.
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Uhhh because its a 100 dollar automatic watch and I was already in Pakistan? Why are you so mad, bro?
Man I didn't want to come off like I was singling you out. I'm not. Your posts just happen to be on the page of this thread I was reading. I will say this though, when you poor blood, sweat, tears and lots of money into a business and product development it can get irritating to have your intellectual property stolen. Also, peacock-style ego purchases are just cheesy. To mitigate somewhat, it sounds like you got a cool watch for $100.

Additionally, I like your postings on other topics and your YouTube video is one of the reasons I bought an MPE. Not mad, just trying to make a valid point about fakes of anything and intellectual property rights.
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Man I didn't want to come off like I was singling you out. I'm not. Your posts just happen to be on the page of this thread I was reading. I will say this though, when you poor blood, sweat, tears and lots of money into a business and product development it can get irritating to have your intellectual property stolen. Also, peacock-style ego purchases are just cheesy. To mitigate somewhat, it sounds like you got a cool watch for $100.

Additionally, I like your postings on other topics and your YouTube video is one of the reasons I bought an MPE. Not mad, just trying to make a valid point about fakes of anything and intellectual property rights.
I definitely see where you're coming from, but a 100 dollar watch purchase isn't going to collapse the rolex name. And I have one, lol. I didn't buy a few hundred of them and sell them inside my convenience store haha.

I apologize for the slight condescending tone I took in my rebuttals. It was nothing personal.
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...I just personally think wearing anything fake in an attempt to boost your ego or other people's opinion of you only speaks poorly about the person wearing the fakes of any item. ...
It is sad if that's what one's motivation is for buying the watch, be it fake or real; the buyer has to be pretty shallow to get some sort of "solace/pride" as a result of his/her things instead of his her character and accomplishments. Unfortunately, it's quite rare that I can make the call as to what the buyer's/wearer's motivation(s) are in connection with a fake watch.

I know the idea you presented certainly is the driver for some folks, but I'm in no position to attribute that cause to them unless I have real proof. I'd just as soon not judge them for the faults and instead look for the strengths they have to offer.

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Does anyone follow fakewatchbusta on Instagram? It's amazing how he calls out all the posers peasants with their fake watches. Lot of "baller" rappers in there, but also kids that drive Geo Metros but then have an AP watch.
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Is it typical walk into Rolex stores wearing sunglasses

Maybe it's some rich person thing that I don't "get."




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Boy oh boy, where do I sign up to be like that guy?
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Does anyone follow fakewatchbusta on Instagram? It's amazing how he calls out all the posers peasants with their fake watches. Lot of "baller" rappers in there, but also kids that drive Geo Metros but then have an AP watch.
I took a peep after you mentioned it in another thread. That account is hilarious

The comments are especially entertaining. I think there's a recent entry about a plumber who literally spent a month and a half's worth of salary to buy a real Rolex after being called out on buying a fake one. I don't know whether to laugh or cry
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mrchicity3 You got dudes out here spending money they dont have lol

rtejadaa_ mrchicity3 spending money they dont have ? That shit make no sence u retardd this nigha got more money than you whole family 2gether ����

shaealecmatthews rtejadaa_ money they don't have meaning a line of credit

mrchicity3 Yea....when u use a credit card...its money thats not yours...didnt ur mom teach u anything? I pay cash for all my shyt. What about u lil ***** rtejadaa_ where your cash at.... u feel like gettin embarrased? Im in the mood to shyt on broke *****s lol

koolkdblacks For real. 13k on a credit card just to save face. I feel sorry for buddy. Caught in that stunt trap

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Some of the high end replica's are excellent quality. I have a decent collection of genuine watches but I own a replica Omega seamaster planet ocean and it has a swiss engraved ETA movement but I don't pass it off as real if I get quizzed.

However, I was working with this guy (a total bullshitter) and he has a Breitling Bentley on, I got a quick glimpse of this watch and asked for a look...clearly it was a fake...This guy then went into a whole story about how his wife bought this watch for him and how much it cost etc. and why he picked this one etc. I was sitting there...biting my tongue and in total disbelief that he was taking me for a fool!!! I just let him rattle on and left it at that....if someone feels the need to do this to himself and others...then leave them to it.
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Does anyone follow fakewatchbusta on Instagram? It's amazing how he calls out all the posers peasants with their fake watches. Lot of "baller" rappers in there, but also kids that drive Geo Metros but then have an AP watch.
This always kills me. I was in Best Buy the other day looking at computers and the kid that was helping me was maybe 18, had on a ratty-ass pair of tennis shoes and a rep of a $20,000 ROO. Assuming he bought it to look rich, how many people does he think he is fooling?
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Some of the high end replica's are excellent quality. I have a decent collection of genuine watches but I own a replica Omega seamaster planet ocean and it has a swiss engraved ETA movement but I don't pass it off as real if I get quizzed.

However, I was working with this guy (a total bullshitter) and he has a Breitling Bentley on, I got a quick glimpse of this watch and asked for a look...clearly it was a fake...This guy then went into a whole story about how his wife bought this watch for him and how much it cost etc. and why he picked this one etc. I was sitting there...biting my tongue and in total disbelief that he was taking me for a fool!!! I just let him rattle on and left it at that....if someone feels the need to do this to himself and others...then leave them to it.
+100

That's really it. If such chicanery is what floats their boat, so be it. I won't care other than to know to take their comments with a grain of salt, that is provided I know the watch is a fake and they are passing it off as authentic.

I have on one occasion had that happen in a conversation with someone. I happened to know the watch was a fake. I just told the person that the watch had a couple traits that seemed odd to me and I suggested they take it back to jeweler to confirm the authenticity. I also stated that fakes are so rampant these days, even jewelers can occasionally get misled when they buy watches from unusual/unfamiliar sources.

I think he got the picture that I wasn't going to be taken, but I wanted to give him a way to save face as well. No point in making someone feel worse than they already do about themselves.

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This always kills me. I was in Best Buy the other day looking at computers and the kid that was helping me was maybe 18, had on a ratty-ass pair of tennis shoes and a rep of a $20,000 ROO. Assuming he bought it to look rich, how many people does he think he is fooling?
It unfortunately only made him look even poorer. It had the opposite effect.
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Maybe it's some rich person thing that I don't "get."




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Boy oh boy, where do I sign up to be like that guy?
Hilarious video. Not sure if it's supposed to be a parody or not, but I'll just pretend that this guy actually really made a video of himself buying a watch, something from Louis Vuitton and then a nice dinner. The fact that he is wearing some of the most ill-fitting clothing I've ever seen, is wearing sunglasses and films himself buying something... tells me he's rather poor and probably should spend that money somewhere else.
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