02-22-2018, 09:48 AM | #45 |
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I am the proud new owner of a used 2016 X6m, my first BMW... I almost wrecked it at 3 mph on my 2nd day of owning it because it did not have a "park" button... Or more accurately, I thought the "P" switch actually put it in "Park" when it didn't actually fully set the parking brake...
I pulled up to a Walgreens drive-through window to pick up a script for my wife (because my 9 and 11 yr old boys were with me in dad's new car). I pulled up to the window, couldn't figure out how to put the car in park (as I would normally do in this situation with any other car I have owned in the last ~25 yrs). Eventually I pulled up the "P" button and saw the nice red "P" with a circle around it light up red, so I thought it was in "Park" or at a minimum, thought the Parking brake was "set". There was no attendant there, so I put down my window to lean out to push the call button. When I leaned out of the window, my foot accidentally tapped the gas pedal and my car lunged forward and just missed scraping the wall which was ~12 inches to my left... So even if your Parking brake is set, it will immediately go "off" if you touch the gas pedal. Maybe a convenience for stop and start traffic, but certainly not intuitive when you think a parking brake is actually "Set" or for any situation where you would actually want to put your car in "Park" without actually shutting the car off. I found this thread trying to learn how to actually put my car "Park". I think the nugget I learned that is to do this you have to open the door, then re-shut it. Seems a bit asinine to me, if the car actually "can" be put in "Park", why not just have a park button...? My car has like 10 other buttons immediately near the screen control knob, what's one more... |
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With that said, wouldn't the protocol be to put the car in neutral and then pull up the parking brake? What you did was essentially engage the emergency brake with the car in drive then gassed it if I'm tracking. That would cause any car to move forward....albeit at a slower than normal speed since the brake was one. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the sequence of events? |
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That will work. You can also open the door and it will go into park. Next gen will have a P button based on the new M5. |
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02-23-2018, 03:12 PM | #48 |
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When I park my car in neutral with parking brake on just to jump out for a second to do whatever, upon my return I put the car back in drive with parking brake still on, the vehicle will not budge if I hit the gas. A warning comes on and tells me the parking brake is on. Withrow79, I don't understand how that could have happened to you. Maybe your parking brake is not working properly.
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And regarding hitting the gas with a normal car with a parking brake engaged... If you pull a manual Parking brake lever, and then hit the gas, yes it might try to go nudge forward, but it takes a pretty large press of the gas pedal to overcome the parking brake and actually move the forward with any speed. I'm telling you I barely touched the gas and my Parking brake was no longer engaged. Quote:
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My X5M rolled away from me today
Backed the car up about 10 feet so I could get to something in front of it in the garage - shut it off as I normally do and the car shows it is in park - didn't set the emergency brake. About 5 minutes later I hear a slight click, look back, and the car is starting to roll away. Luckily there was something nearby that stopped it, but now I need a new rear bumper. Anyone else ever have this issue? I'm taking to the dealer just in case, but it seems like the car really didn't put itself into park - and no warnings about malfunctions, no "the car is in neutral" message - and seemed to happen when the electronic shut down after 5 minutes or so.
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Yea, but in my case I had the car in reverse when it was turned off which should put it in park. The dash told me it was in park, I got out and shut the door. The garage has a slight grade to it so water doesn't pool, and if the car were in neutral when I got out it would have rolled immediately. In my case it was somewhere are 3-5 minutes later when I heard a click and the car started to roll.
I called BMWNA as well to see if this is an issue - if I hear anything from them I'll post it here - but for now she's going to sit in the garage until I take it in for service on Monday.
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Its seems BMW really doesn't want the car running without a butt in the seat, hence just a couple of models have remote start. Geez, I think '16 was the first year they actually put a door lock/unlock button on the door itself after years and years of complaints. It seems they're coming around. Hopefully remote start will follow with the new platform.
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2013 528i emergency parking release
Car was in an accident, starts, but transmission is always in park and would not switch. Is there an emergency release, to change the gear to neutral for towing purpose? Thank you.
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03-05-2018, 11:18 AM | #56 |
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4WD cars should never be towed even in neutral.
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If this really is for a 528i then I think you may be posting in the wrong forum.
That being said, there is a procedure for cars that have no power that involves crawling under the car (or lifting it), removing the shielding around the transmission, and tightening a screw to put the transmission into neutral following an accident. Besides that, if the car starts then try putting into neutral twice and then holding it in neutral for 5-10 seconds - it should put the car into "tow mode" which unlocks the transmission for 15 minutes - at least that used to be the procedure for cars that start but won't shift into gear or neutral.
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So, BMWNA examined the car and didn't find anything mechanically wrong with the car. I can't rule out user error in this case - seems the data dump from the car only tells you the date/time the car was last put into "car wash" mode, or neutral with the engine off, and it only keeps a counter of the number of times it has been placed into that mode. Unfortunately, I tested the car after it rolled (about an hour later) and that's the last time stamp for the computer, erasing the prior timestamp.
Also, for anyone wondering, if you get tapped in the back and you break the mounts inside the bumper that hold the parking sensors you're going to need a whole new bumper. Parts ~$1700, labor ~$700.
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Only thing with the parking brake is that they can fail on the BMW (well, looking at the number of threads on the E70 forum though). On my E70, I have always put the car in P in the garage (is flat) and no parking brake to avoid the seizing issue.
On the M, I have noticed when you switch the car off in gear, it shows the P on the display, so I guess they must have slightly changed it then. Car is only 2 days old.
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You'll be fine. You're gonna be so worried about breaking shit and scratching stuff you'll check the parking brake 818272726272 times. That's what I did. I also kept auto hold on until I mastered parking.
Now I leave the auto hold on when the wife drives which is very rarely.
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Sorry about reviving an old thread! I was searching for this as this is my first ‘m’. I agree, once you figure it out, it’s fine.
There’s a couple issues that i’m mentioning just for the sake of mentioning because i doubt engineers are looking at this post of mine, and i’m sure they have their reasons for why it is what it is. If i give the car to my dad to drive, say to run an errand, or if his car is not available (who’s very healthy but elderly, not tech savy), theni worry about issues. I don’t need to get into what issues i worry about. Y’all are smart, you can come up with them. So, i’ve written a sticky for him. There’s a little button above the parking brake button (above=towards the back). As we all know, it sets the brake automatically. How about if i turn that on, then the profile remembers my selection? Problem solved. I understand perhaps unneccesary wear on the parking brake motor but, so what? That’s what you get… lol I’ve looked at the coding sheet. Do not see this as being a programmable option. That would be cool. As ron would say, set it and forget it! |
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What you are talking about is the Auto-hold function. Not sure what function you are trying to achieve with this.
It is designed to apply the brakes when you come to a complete stop and let them go when you start to accelerate. It is does not apply the parking brake to the car. It more design to stop you from rolling backwards if you accidently let go of the brake or don't press the accelerator fast enough to start moving. ALSO FYI, if you having been driving, come to a complete stop engage the PARKING BRAKE and then you accidently hit the accelerator with the car still in D/manual. The parking brake WILL Auto Disengage and the car WILL launch forward. The Parking brake will NOT hold the car. |
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Yes, thanks. I think it’s a pretty fool proof system. It’s just that i am not used to not having a ‘park’ gear. It can be called something else, but it ought to be a gear that, when engaged, no amount of brake or throttle input will put the car in a moving gear.
The folks at bmw are pro; it’s not their first rodeo. There has to be a really good reason for why this has been done. It’s a great car. This is a minor issue and not for me. Just need to spend a few min with the g/f or pops if they get in the car to get them up to speed. Btw chilled. I sent you a PM and replied to your reply on the folding mirror thread. Reply back when you have time. I’m going to go ahead with the coding |
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There is no fool proof park mode on the //M. The only way to put it into a park mode that will not get cancelled by the accelerator is to
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