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      04-18-2019, 10:34 AM   #23
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but they have historically been lacking compared to M BMWs in handling finesse.
once audi was able to figure out weight distribution their handling improved dramatically. i owned a b7 rs4 back in the day and the way any 911 has the engine hang off the rear of the vehicle audi did the same but in the front. b8 chassis era and forward audi dialed in a lot of that slop and counterweight. adding torque vectoring diffs and rwd bias got them to better narrow the gap in handling. that being said for me ///M seems to do it the best in terms of driver engagement, //AMG does it very well too but differently and /RS appears to aim their designs for comfort and performance while not really hitting the mark 100% on either. not bashing audi, i am a life long enthusiast and fan... i have owned every audi s/rs worth owning but just my opinion based on my ownership experience. this is the main reason i have not revisited anything they have offered in some time and the RS6 is the product i have been waiting for to get back into the brand. the RS7 and S8 are up there too but the RS7 is so dated now that one is better off going for the newest.
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There aren't rumors of the RS4 Avant making a return too, are there?
Unfortunately, I understand that slot is now filled with the RS5 SB
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Nope; the plan for a limited run of 500 pre-sold units was scrapped long ago when JDN left AOA.
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Well, the case for keeping the X5M just got a lot harder.

https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news...-coming-to-us/
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nope
if I wanted a wagon, I would spec out an E63S wagon
If I wanted a lower stance, would buy the M5
I've had and "S" Audi, and the bite never matched the bark. I realize the RS is a different segment, but an Audi is still an Audi.
Anyway, the reality is, at this level, really no "losers" to be had
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Well, the case for keeping the X5M just got a lot harder.
Tempting, isn't it?
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Well, the case for keeping the X5M just got a lot harder.
i am going to be in one and hopefully part of the first allocation.

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^^ A reasonable analogy is S = M Sport, and RS = M. So yes, completely different performance league.

RS Audis have always excelled at straight line speed and mechanical grip, but they have historically been lacking compared to M BMWs in handling finesse. I would say that the gap has narrowed, from improvements by Audi, but also because M cars have all become way too heavy and luxury oriented.
Agreed for the most part. The same thing can be said for AMG as well. This is what makes a horse race, hence a better product for all. No Audi guy, but I have to admit, it's a great looking shooting brake (US station wagon).
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I think the interior is incredibly well done. Better than an M. It's very clean on lines.

I also think the exterior is plain ol mean and awesome. I like how they took it. Plus great brake options (carbon!) with a real rear caliper.

Maybe this will be a shot across the bow for BMW to bring back the M5 Touring.
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10pot Carbon Ceramic. Pretty wild. Plus a performance package that bumps the power up and matrix headlights makes for a wild build sheet that has potential to be a long term hold.

I hope this wakes up the R&D team over at BMW and they bring an M5 Touring over but considering BMW recently cancelled the F31 and future plans for a wagon I am not optimistic.
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10pot Carbon Ceramic. Pretty wild. Plus a performance package that bumps the power up and matrix headlights makes for a wild build sheet that has potential to be a long term hold.

I hope this wakes up the R&D team over at BMW and they bring an M5 Touring over but considering BMW recently cancelled the F31 and future plans for a wagon I am not optimistic.
Agreed. But not if it follows the future pattern of over sized grilles that the current BMW design team seems to love.
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I'd never drive any wagon. I'd rather walk.
It's just like how the M3/M4 guys feel the same way about our M behemoths. So it's all relative. As they say: 'To each his own'.
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I'd never drive any wagon. I'd rather walk.
but you would install springs to lower an suv to look like a wagon.
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but you would install springs to lower an suv to look like a wagon.
Sure, i would do a subtle drop but i hate slammed SUVs they look terrible.
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agreed. too low looks like the suspension is broken along with losing the comfort and practicality of the clearance.
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Agreed. But not if it follows the future pattern of over sized grilles that the current BMW design team seems to love.


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