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      08-01-2022, 03:52 PM   #133
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I'm using arduino with ZGW2 all the time, but never succeeded in HTTP programming. It always throw an error about HTTP at the beginning of programming and I have to check the option "Deactivate HTTP" in parameters to be able to program it, but then it's going by UDS of course.
It doesn't matter if it's icom or enet, always the same HTTP fault. Two days ago I had to flash NBT and it took over 6 hours by UDS to be finished.

ZGW vin doesn't have to match with EVO or retrofitted car vin. EVO checks the vin of CAS/FEM only, so when arduino is used to send wakeup then there is no VIN issues.
I was doing ZGW Vin match before , never done without VIN change.

As far as HTTP goes you need to flash with Esys 3.27.1. No issue on HTTP and no router needed.
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I was doing ZGW Vin match before , never done without VIN change.

As far as HTTP goes you need to flash with Esys 3.27.1. No issue on HTTP and no router needed.
Ok, so for your further works you don't need to care about ZGW, I never changed vin inside ZGW and never had rejected FSCs.

The problem with 3.27 Esys is that you can't use it with newest psdzdata. Actually with manipulation of psdzdata you can use it, but don't know if it won't cause any troubles.

The point is to find a problem why it cannot go as HTTP with newer esys on bench
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Ok, so for your further works you don't need to care about ZGW, I never changed vin inside ZGW and never had rejected FSCs.

The problem with 3.27 Esys is that you can't use it with newest psdzdata. Actually with manipulation of psdzdata you can use it, but don't know if it won't cause any troubles.

The point is to find a problem why it cannot go as HTTP with newer esys on bench
Right, If i find out anything i will be posting here. Thank you for the ZGW VIN
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I've tried NBT with esys 3.27 yesterday and it flashed one file with HTTP in seconds literally and when I started another file it crashed with HTTP error and I had to proceed with UDS and it took over 8 hours to flash one SWFL of NBT. I've tried with Enet first and when I saw it's going 1% for 5mins, then I disconnected power supply and connected ICOM, but still the same amount of time. It's ridiculous. Few days ago whole NBT went 6 hours by UDS and now 8 hours only one SWFL... I have no idea what can cause such delays.
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Hello guys,

I have recently purchased 17' F85 with NBT EVO ID5 and i want to activate the Apple CarPlay Full screen option. After making some research found out that it can only be coded if your Evo comes with the version N or O or Higher and i checked mine out it is J. So i need to flash the NBT Evo.

I gathered all the necessary software + data files thanks to Shawn. And i did couple codings at the very first time using the LiTe version.

Also i have the Full version with the Esys 3.30.1 on my other laptop.

The ICOM Next i have is China Clone.
After making searches on the net, it looks like Flashing the NBT is like a Government Secret. No one wants to share the steps. The reason i wrote here as DIY, i contributed alot of DIYs and solutions to BMW community to help lovely DIYers to achieve their goal from their home without needing additional service.

And i want this topic to be the first DIY NBT EVO Programming in the entire world to help people all over the world to use as a proper guidance so they will not fail to flash their NBT Evo with unknown information in the net.

I am at the begining of this journey. I have done alot of programming and codings on E chassis with success and never failed doing it. Including CIC updates Just because there is people in the community provided very good explanations and informations to achive this process to be done succefully and works without an issue.

Watchdogs will not participate the steps or proper setups to conclude this project for sure. But as a big DIYer i would like to work as a Team with the other DIYers to get the things going for our benefit.

If you are knowledgeable and done this process as a DIYer you are welcome to share your experience and steps to shine some light on this DIY!

I will start with this :

I have the software E-Sys_Setup-3.30.1 with v.4.26.35_PSdZData_Full . When you are using the PSdZData Full, you do not need to run the software with Pro Edition. Existing Esys shortcut on your desktop will run the software and flash the modules if the connections are done properly.

As far as the connection goes i have ordered Enet Cable and will be arriving tomorrow.

With the ICOM NEXT i have done this settings to Establish the successful connection :

On the Windows Ethernet Adapter settings find your ethernet and go to properties and choose internet protocol version 4 (TCP/IPv4) .

Set like this :

Attachment 2477483


After that open iToolRadar reserve the IP adress then open the EasyConnect and Lock the ICOM.

Note your IP address and open your Esys Software.

Before you get in to your vehicle use 50AMP or more battery charger for proper programming. After the battery charger turned on put your ICOM to the OBD port and Turn the ignition

Open the Esys 3.30.1 software and press the Connect button.

Select the options like this :

Attachment 2477485

Replace with your IP address tcp://XXXXXXXXXXXXXX:50160

and Select Read parameters from VCM and press connect.

This settings should be able to connect to your car successfully.

I have coded the car with this settings without any issue.

Programming might be different.

After making many researches , Some of the people say you should use dhcp from router or you can simply use Dhcp software to get the IP without the router and can be successfully flash the NBT EVO.

Before The Flashing Session :

Here is one of the most important part of Flashing. Many people skipping this step and causing communication issues in between ECUs due to one is updated the other one is not. So you need to check the DEPENDENCY on each module that you want to update.

It is listed under TAL Line when you browse the saved SVT_tal file and click Edit Under EXPERT Mode / TAL Processing. (You need to browse the saved SVT_tal file under the TAL Line)

Attachment 2477869
Attachment 2477870

Each Ecu has PreRequisite Folder and you expand this folder to find out what is the dependecies of your ECU so you do proper update including the Depending ECU.

Here is my example :

Each software version has different dependency profile. The version i have is J16383I. According to this Talline ID=tl_4 idendifies HU_NBT2. When you expend this folder it shows + on the PreRequisite which means there is a dependency and following ECUs also needs to be updated with NBT.

Which is Talline ID=tl_1 and Talline ID=tl_12

Attachment 2478066

You also need to check if the dependency ECU have any other dependency ECU as well. In my case both are okay and does not have any other dependency ECU.

Talline ID=tl_1

Attachment 2478067

Talline ID=tl_12

Attachment 2478068

So when you want to update the NBT in my vehicle i have to choose BDC_GW in my UPDATE list. And Esys will do the management to update whichever needs to be updated first.


Programming Steps :

Because i am working on F85, You will choose F025 on the connection menu. Do not choose anything ends with DIRECT.

After the connection established because you chose Read parameters from VCM, you will see the iStep Shipment level of your vehicle. Note that. We will use this to choose the correct iStep to flash the ECUs.

Comfort Mode First :

1- Read FA (Vehicle Order) at the top and Save with a custom title like FA Order or so.

2- Right Click the FA folder and "Activate FA"

3- You should click the Read SVT on the right column but because we have BDC_BODY this will not work on f85 so you click READ ECU instead.

4- Save the SVT you just read from the ECUs as SVT_ist

5- Under the KIS/SVT Target select the same I-Step (shipment) value you noted.

6- Under the I-Step (Shipment) Select the latest I-Step (target)

7- Choose the Complete Flash on the right side.

8- Click Calculate

9- Save it as SVT_soll

10- Underneath the KIS/SVT you will see TAL menu. Click Calculation.

11- You might get a Warning. Click OK.

12- Save the calculation as SVT_tal

13- On the left side click the Expert Mode.

14- Click Tal ... (3 dot) and Open the SVT_tal

15- You will see all the modules that needs to be updated after TAL Calculation.

16- Click SVT ... (3 dot) and open the SVT_soll

17- Read FA above the FA ... (3 dot). It will automatically generate the file name FA_aus_VCM.xml on the blank FA area.

18- Select Read Vin out of FA and click Read VIN

19- If you want to update the all modules keep it as is. This can be also done on ISTA+ . The reason i am using the Esys to do individual updates. So i click the ALL and unclick all the necessary module updates but click the HU_NBT_63 , then choose only blFlash, swDeploy, cdDeploy, ibaDeploy.

Attachment 2478076

20- Click "Check Software Availability" to make sure you have necessary DATA files in place. And you should see similar to this :

Attachment 2478077

21- Start

If the connection setting done properly your NBT EVO will flash correctly to the latest version. And will update from ID5 to ID6.

Additional info for ICOM Connection :

1) Set a static IP on the Ethernet (not wireless) interface – Use 192.168.254.1
2) Install DHCP server (http://www.dhcpserver.de)
3) Configure DHCP server to listen on the Ethernet interface
4) Click on the buttons to set firewall ports and run as service
5) Connect up your ICOM and it’ll get a DHCP address from the DHCP server

ICOM Config

ConnectionMode = STATIC_IP
Ip = 192.168.68.85
Netmask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway = 192.168.68.99



DHCPSRV.INI
[SETTINGS]

IPPOOL_1=192.168.68.1-254
IPBIND_1=192.168.68.99
AssociateBindsToPools=1
Trace=1
DeleteOnRelease=0
ExpiredLeaseTimeout=3600

[GENERAL]
LEASETIME=86400
NODETYPE=8
SUBNETMASK=255.255.255.0
NEXTSERVER=192.168.68.99
ROUTER_0=192.168.68.1

[DNS-SETTINGS]
EnableDNS=0

[TFTP-SETTINGS]
EnableTFTP=0
ROOT=C:\Users\Osx\Desktop\DHCP\wwwroot
WritePermission=0

[HTTP-SETTINGS]
EnableHTTP=0
ROOT=C:\Users\Osx\Desktop\DHCP\wwwroot
[00-01-A9-00-EE-E9]
IPADDR=192.168.68.1
AutoConfig=06/26/2016 12:41:32
Hostname=ICOM1120134
LeaseEnd=1467070189

Windows Ethernet config:

“Use the following IP Address”
IP 192.168.68.99
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

Then you can program everything without faults.

ENET :

With ENET you can flash NBT even without DHCP server and with ICOM you can flash ZGW without DHCP server. You can even flash whole car without DHCP server by first flashing the ZGW with ICOM and then flashing the rest with ENET.

NOTE : After the research i think Enet will be the best choice for the UPDATE. ICOM needs more configuration than ENET and because mine is Chinese Clone, it makes even worse. And seems like Enet more reliable over CH ICOM!

ENET CONNECTION :

1- Go to you Network Connections.

2- Open properties

3- Click Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP / IPv4)

Make sure looks like this :

Attachment 2478096

4- Plug your ENET cable to your vehicle then to your PC/Laptop + Turn On your ignition.

5- Go to C:/EDIABAS/Hardware/ENET Double Click ZGW_SEARCH

It should look like this :

Attachment 2478094

6 - Open the Esys Software. Click the Connection Button :

Should look like similar to this :

Attachment 2478095

7- Click Connect :

Attachment 2478099

UPDATE

Flashing Successfully DONE & DUSTED with ENET Cable Today.

I did have some issues at the begining but nothing like fail on the flash. I will share here so you know what to do.

First Thing i had problem with was this :

TAL execution started. [C205]
VCM Update: VCM-Update is deactivated. VCM will not be updated. [C197]
[Exception - UNKNOWN] FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions
Fatal error while executing tal!
Asynchrone programming failed! [C049]
FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions [1358] - SYSTEM_ERROR

SOLUTION is simple. After click the "Read VIN" at the 18th step above Click the Read FA and this will solve this issue.

Second issue was :

[] Failed ProgrammingPrecondition ECUId:HU_NBT2_0x63 error ID:128 - Medium in dvd drive. Flash may have problems when updating drive firmware. Please remove medium from drive before flash. Otherwise flash cannot start. [THROWABLE]

This postponed the flash before started. The reason is i thought CD driver was empty because i pressed Eject button before the flash nothing came out. I pressed 2-3 times later and Bang&Olufsen CD came out and this took care of the this issue.

After that i clicked the START button and Flash Went so smooth in 40-45 min. I did not update the dependencies of the NBT But i updated the ZBE4 Which is idrive controller within 3.5 minutes.

After the Flash NBT EVO 5 menu came back. So you need to code the HMI_VERSION to ID6_Lite and Apple Apps was disabled. Simply activate the APPLE_ENHANCEMENTS from the coding . Now you have ID6 look with AppleCar Play. Because full screen not a codable option. I paid for the service and unlocked the Full Screen with a small Windows software. It did the trick while the CID Blue screen on and now have it all.

Attachment 2478322
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Attachment 2478838

Shawn was a BIG help. Appreciated brother. From now on WORLD can use this DIY as a guidance since i have done successfully!

NBT EVO version "V" . One of the latest update up to date. I think it will end with the Z for 2020

I have gathered alot of information from several different websites and members. Mostly Shawn and concluded the project without any issue. Thank you all the hardworking DIYers.

UPDATE 4/26/2021 : NBT EVO "X" and Above not required Apple Car play full screen injection via 3rd party solutions. If you already had Apple Car Play in your vehicle and updated to X or above, you can simply code the NBT to use Full Screen Apple CarPlay.

ID5 to ID6 Skin

HMI_ID_VERSION change this to id6_light

Apps :

APPLE_ENHANCEMENTS => aktiv

Apple CarPlay Full Screen on Version X or above :

HMI / HMI_39_39_128 => aktiv

or

HMI / CARPLAY_FULLSCREEN => aktiv
Updated my EVO from J to Y (ID5>ID6) by these steps on my F34. Awesome guide! All went smoothly and took about 45 minutes.
Updated NBT2 unit only (had no dependencies).

Had to reset DTC codes afterwards and re-code Apple & other mods.

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Updated my EVO from J to Y (ID5>ID6) by these steps on my F34. Awesome guide! All went smoothly and took about 45 minutes.
Updated NBT2 unit only (had no dependencies).

Had to reset DTC codes afterwards and re-code Apple & other mods.

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Can this method be used to do the update to the whole car using ENET cable as I have no ICOM?

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I already found the way to flash NBT/NBT EVO on bench via http protocol. Esys version 3.30 need to be used. You can generate files in esys 3.34 and use them in 3.30 version.

NBT update went 30 minutes via http, so that's finally correct time.

Hope this information will help for those of you who struggling with UDS update that sometimes take forever.
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question, if flashing using psdzdata, since the psdzdata is so huge, is it safe to eliminate files that are not for the type of vehicle I am flashing?
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Yes, but you still have to download full psdzdata to get the needed files, so you save nothing.
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Yes, but you still have to download full psdzdata to get the needed files, so you save nothing.
I agree they all do need to be downloaded, but my laptop has limited storage (256gb) so Im thinking I can download it all on my PC and then the idea being put the necessary files needed on the laptop for flashing
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I agree they all do need to be downloaded, but my laptop has limited storage (256gb) so Im thinking I can download it all on my PC and then the idea being put the necessary files needed on the laptop for flashing
Or just use psdzdata from external drive and a Windows Symbolic Link (MKINK).
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any recommended battery chargers for flashing? anything not crazy expensive on amazon that someone can recommend?
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I use this one, it's the same as the BMW one, same company etc.

CTEK - 40-206 MXS 5.0 Fully Automatic 4.3 amp Battery Charger and Maintainer 12V https://a.co/d/2un1gku
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I use this one, it's the same as the BMW one, same company etc.

CTEK - 40-206 MXS 5.0 Fully Automatic 4.3 amp Battery Charger and Maintainer 12V https://a.co/d/2un1gku
Thank you for the response, I'm just confused though, the guide says to use one that is 50 amp or more, is that not the case? Am I not understanding something? Is there more specifics as to what is needed for flashing? I just want to make sure I buy the right one
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do you need to clear errors after flashing? if so, how can this be done? I don't think that was mentioned in the guide
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Yes. Using transmitter in esys you can use clear dtc command
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Yes. Using transmitter in esys you can use clear dtc command
Thank you! I've read so many different guides on flashing, I just want to make sure I have as much information as possible before any attempts are made. Just about have all I need to get started. Is this still the best guide around for this? It seems to be the best most up to date
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Thank you for your recommendation. What mode would you keep this product on for flashing? The 30A boost? Or just the 6A/2A charge? Or does the device just adjust itself as needed?
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Thank you for your recommendation. What mode would you keep this product on for flashing? The 30A boost? Or just the 6A/2A charge? Or does the device just adjust itself as needed?
First thing, you will switch to AGM, and yeah 30A Boost what you need. Then it adjusts automatically.
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Any reason why people use one version of Esys to generate files and another version to flash? I have Esys 3.4, can I just do it all with the single version? Is it just people wanting to use http or something to update?
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