10-29-2023, 02:16 PM | #1 |
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Paint Issues? Peeling Paint
Has anyone else expirienced anything like this? I’ve searched the forum but only found issues on plastic bumpers and spoilers. This is happening the whole way across the leading edge of the roof. I’ve been covering it with BMW touch up paint but it’s almost coming off faster then I can cover it. My X5 is a 2014 so WELL out of warranty so I have yet to contact the dealer about it. It’s garage kept but I do use automatic car washes. But this is the only issue spot I have.
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10-29-2023, 05:34 PM | #2 |
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Most likely caused by automated car washes. We have similar on ours, though not nearly that bad. We do use automated washes pretty regularly as well. BMW used to use trim that covered the area above the windshield. Now they use a small trim that sits inside the channel on top of the windshield and leaves that area exposed. Poor decision on their part IMO. Doesn't really add much to the aesthetics of the car, and leaves the paint exposed to both rock chipping and of course automated wash brushes.
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10-29-2023, 07:15 PM | #4 |
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The other day while washing mine in the driveway, I noticed peeling paint on the shark fin antenna. Mines is a 2015 and I almost never take it to automatic car washes.
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10-30-2023, 09:04 AM | #6 |
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10-30-2023, 09:18 AM | #7 |
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yah unlikely that bmw will fix this given your car is a decade old. this is common to see in cars that regularly see auto car washes with minimal paint protections (sealant, ceramic, ppf).
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10-30-2023, 02:43 PM | #9 |
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It's a paint adhesion problem, not a car wash problem. Abrasion from car wash brushes would cause scratching, not flakes of paint missing. The reason you see it first above the windshield is because rock chips will help speedup the process. Basically once a rock chip opens the paint up it will start to flake up like you see in the pic. If you were to get a rock chip on top of your roof the same thing would happen eventually. paint adhesion issue.
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10-30-2023, 09:01 PM | #10 |
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^ Nope. Checked my original purchase pictures when we bought the X5 before posting the above just to be sure. No damage up there at all until we bought our wash membership. Unless myself and the OP are the most unlucky PPL ever to have that many rocks hit that little exposed lip... It's the car washes.
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10-30-2023, 09:16 PM | #12 |
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put some masking tape across the top where the paint is missing, pull the tape off. Did any paint stick to the tape? adhesion issue, not abrasion. ..been spraying cars for 25 years btw
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10-30-2023, 10:10 PM | #13 |
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i don't think folks are saying the car wash is the actual cause vs a catalyst to the poor paint adhesion. at least that's where my thought was. the high pressure and harsh chemicals from a car wash will certainly speed up the paint flaking off here... especially if a rock chip has already created a weak spot and paint adhesion was poor. good paint adhesion would not have flaking.
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I am only going off the photo evidence I have, and experience working the auto industry. For ~85000 miles the paint up there looked fine. And <30000 miles later it looks as pictured after having used automated car washes pretty regularly. Knowing what I know now, I would never have use an auto car wash on any vehicle that does not have a complete coverage windshield trim/gasket above the windshield. BMW made a stupid decision to change to this design. |
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And you're right, many modern vehicles have an exposed front lip above the windshield. But I'm not sure they are angled as abruptly or have quite as much exposed. There is enough exposed edge on the X5 that many people, including myself, thought there was a gasket missing. I ordered one before realizing it was there but was very small and not designed to cover that edge. There could be a few factors contributing to the effect, but the issue remains, car washes cause the paint to be removed. The issue of the exposed edge is there all the time obviously, but without the car washes... no damage, or additional damage in the case of a rock chip, would be incurred. |
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It may appear to be chipped/peeling to you. It appears abraded to me, especially in between the areas of the chips. And one last time... whether chipped or abraded, it doesn't matter. The car wash causes the paint to be removed. I'm not going back and forth any more as your replies devolve each time. OP was asking a question. I answered, with experience involving the exact problem he was asking. |
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All that sand and debris in a hyper speed wipe? It’s a ticking time bomb. |
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Wrong place, wrong time, with the right car and it happens. Pissed me right the F off. Of course I had no way to prove it bc who takes pictures immediately before and after? No one… Only thing I could rationalize is that stone chip allowed the high pressure water to get in there and it released from underneath in a big chunk. |
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