Screwed Up - Standard Instrument Cluster vs. Extended

[emaratee]

Originally Posted by turboawd

why is it that those who dont have the extended, are the ones saying its not worth it? just saying.

isn't it always the case

[jugdish]

Originally Posted by turboawd

why is it that those who dont have the extended, are the ones saying its not worth it? just saying.

I wasn't saying that it's not worth it.... In my case, it wasn't worth being a dick to the dealer who offered me $1200 more for my trade then any other dealer, who gave me a 7% discount when all other dealers were offering 5%, and at the end of the day, it was my fault for not really caring about HUD where the extended display is offered.

We're talking about an instrument cluster for God's sake.

[MattBianco]

It appears everyone is talking apples and oranges. As my prior post in this thread (#21) suggests either I or you are misunderstood. Either way, I'd liike to know.

Getting HUD does not get you 6WB. To my knowledge there is no other display available other than 6wa for US F15s so I am not sure what you think you could have gotten by ordering HUD (which is great).

The 6wa cluster has a digital bottom but the dials are analog.

6wb is all digital and not available as an option for US model F15s. You could retrofit yourself or use a BMW program announced last Nov. At any rate the cost of retrofit is high, and it is still no substitute for HUD (which is great....did I say that already?....because it is really great)

Anyway, if I am misunderstood, I'd like to know.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by MattBianco

It appears everyone is talking apples and oranges. As my prior post in this thread (#21) suggests either I or you are misunderstood. Either way, I'd liike to know.

Getting HUD does not get you 6WB. To my knowledge there is no other display available other than 6wa for US F15s so I am not sure what you think you could have gotten by ordering HUD (which is great).

The 6wa cluster has a digital bottom but the dials are analog.

6wb is all digital and not available as an option for US model F15s. You could retrofit yourself or use a BMW program announced last Nov. At any rate the cost of retrofit is high, and it is still no substitute for HUD (which is great....did I say that already?....because it is really great)

Anyway, if I am misunderstood, I'd like to know.

There are three clusters. Basic, 6WA and 6WB (retrofitted). Basic is like a 6WA but without the bottom part being all digital. Instead there is a smaller digital display. On the first page there is a link to another thread that shows the difference.

[MattBianco]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

There are three clusters. Basic, 6WA and 6WB (retrofitted). Basic is like a 6WA but without the bottom part being all digital. Instead there is a smaller digital display. On the first page there is a link to another thread that shows the difference.

Thank you. I had no idea. I thought it was just the a and b.

[akhter]

Originally Posted by emaratee

isn't it always the case

i have both. i and i am saying its not worth fussing over. its not actually that useful once you get over the initial gaga.

do i want extended over base cluster? yes.

do i want 6wb over the other 2? yes.

now that i have both base cluster and 6wb will i fuss over not having 6wb? no. i certaily won't pay for HUD or 2k retrofit since it adds almost no real functionality. I would rather spend the money on other upgrades like MPPK/wheels/M sport/DHP/LED etc.

difference between base and extended is ridiculously small. 6wb actually adds some bling but for US buyers its not even an option. case closed.

[Jajo]

Speaking of which, have you guys seen Audis new cluster in the new Q7 and TT? Too cool, I'm so envious.

[akhter]

Originally Posted by Jajo

Speaking of which, have you guys seen Audis new cluster in the new Q7 and TT? Too cool, I'm so envious.

on that note, have you actually seen the exterior of the new q7? its basically a raised minivan with awd. to think that i waited to see what the new q7 looked like before getting the x5...

[Stunnaz]

Here it is in the TT.

[jugdish]

Only thing I like about the 6wa vs the basic is the backlit numbers in the dials
during daytime driving. The basic cluster is pretty dark, but it's not that big a deal.

This is my first BMW.... I've owned 2 Lexus GX's and an Infiniti JX. I opted for the mocha nappa leather which comes with the leather dash. I'm just a sample of one, but, the interior fit and finish and quality of materials is the best I've ever seen in the luxury segment. Honesty, Lexus should be ashamed of the current crop of vehicles and the forthcoming 2016 RX.

As for the Audi Q7, other then the digital cluster, I think it lags the X5 in looks and features. My only complaint with the X5 is the dreadful runflats that came on my 35d. It amazes me that I can drive a vehicle of this size and average 30mpg with mostly city driving.

[Johndong888]

You should consider doing a 6WB upgrade. It's such a great eye candy. The navi direction will also be right in the center. I would do it every time.

I myself honestly do not see a quality issue with the resolution. I don't use a 4k monitor but I have numerous high-end 1440p monitors and I can definitely differentiate between shitty and eye-pleasing resolutions. The 6WB is definitely eye-pleasing. To compare, I have a 2015 MB S550 with the HUGEEE cluster as well as enough experience with the RR TFT cluster (mines a 2016 on order so I don't have it yet).

It's a really, really easy mod to do. Took about 15mins to get it in and out. Fine maybe 20mins

Originally Posted by jugdish

Only thing I like about the 6wa vs the basic is the backlit numbers in the dials
during daytime driving. The basic cluster is pretty dark, but it's not that big a deal.

This is my first BMW.... I've owned 2 Lexus GX's and an Infiniti JX. I opted for the mocha nappa leather which comes with the leather dash. I'm just a sample of one, but, the interior fit and finish and quality of materials is the best I've ever seen in the luxury segment. Honesty, Lexus should be ashamed of the current crop of vehicles and the forthcoming 2016 RX.

As for the Audi Q7, other then the digital cluster, I think it lags the X5 in looks and features. My only complaint with the X5 is the dreadful runflats that came on my 35d. It amazes me that I can drive a vehicle of this size and average 30mpg with mostly city driving.

[jugdish]

Is it still necessary to remove the 6WB cluster if the dealer does a software update?

[MattBianco]

Originally Posted by jugdish

Is it still necessary to remove the 6WB cluster if the dealer does a software update?

Unless you do the upgrade with the dealer (see marketing material in the PDF Library thread), the answer is yes, according Opasha who did the switch and put up an excellent 'how to' thread for it.

Also, my guess is firmware updates are VIN based and they may be affected if the upgrade is not properly registered.

[akhter]

Originally Posted by Johndong888

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The navi direction will also be right in the center.
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I have both 6wb on f10 and base cluster (not extended) on f15. The navigation directions are identical on both because the directions on cluster are optimized for base cluster (not extended or 6wb). Yes I was shocked as well. BMW should sue the screen in 6wb more (like audi/porsche/ferrari etc.) and give better Nav on full LCD cluster.