Warning coding new software update

K-Bomb · 03-10-2015, 10:32 PM

Ok guys,

I just got my x5 back from the dealer for a regular service appointment and the next thing I know is the truck had a new computer update.

All my previous codes were gone ( that's expected ) but when I try to code it back, lots of module can't be read. I checked with #Opasha to fix the issue and it seems that the new 55.1 firmware update can no longer be coded. BMW put several restrictions to avoid any type of coding.

So if you guys want to keep your presets or still be able to code by yourself....DO NOT do the software update from the dealer.

I learn this the hard way and I'm still really disappointed.
Spread the info !!!!!!!

Ashot12 · 03-10-2015, 10:35 PM

Ashot12 · 03-10-2015, 10:56 PM

How do I do that? Do I have to decline software update? Do they update the software when I take it for an oil Change?

quattrospeed · 03-10-2015, 11:09 PM

So as many of you know, I haven't received my car yet... This is honestly a complete deal breaker. Might sound stupid to some, but I was banking on many of these features. Like the key folding mirrors... Or the increased seat ventilation settings, that's the only reason I gave up terra interior so I can get the luxury seating... Not a good week! First taxes, now this!

Taran.J · 03-10-2015, 11:31 PM

The single thing that pisses me off in BMWs?

NO DIGITAL MPH DISPLAY WITHOUT CODING!!!

Other things are small and come useful but the one thing that really pushes my button on every bmw I own is that.

possib1edoc · 03-10-2015, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

The single thing that pisses me off in BMWs?

NO DIGITAL MPH DISPLAY WITHOUT CODING!!!

Other things are small and come useful but the one thing that really pushes my button on every bmw I own is that.

You couldn't have said it any better! Digital MPH should be standard these days.

quattrospeed · 03-10-2015, 11:34 PM

Waiting for opasha to make a statement here

Stano · 03-10-2015, 11:52 PM

wow this sucks. I have the 6WB cluster installed If I was forced into a update I would lose it because the coding involved to be able to run it.
I guess it's a great excuse to let the SA know why I don't want the software updated and also because they can not update the software with out me installing the original cluster first(AFAIK)
Crossing my fingers not having any problems with the car that would require a update because they could then pretty much force me into a update if the repair required it.

This blows. Hopefully there's a way around it sooner or later.

opasha · 03-10-2015, 11:53 PM

This is true. It stems back from 54.2 onward, which had been discussed a lot by many bmw forums and even in the coding thread. BMW seems to be making the shift to end coding by making it more difficult. I checked K-Bomb's files tonight and saw all the folders that could not be read due to the software update. The latest seems to be 55.1 that the dealer will put you at. Not much you can do if you have a necessary service appointment

. It really is unfortunate.

MattBianco · 03-10-2015, 11:54 PM

See post #80 here by http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=818922&page=4 shawnsheridan who is a coding god. Does not sound promising.

He reiterates here in post #235: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=17524400

VO coding is not a problem but FDL coding is per post #240 in the last link.

opasha · 03-10-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stano

wow this sucks. I have the 6WB cluster installed If I was forced into a update I would lose it because the coding involved to be able to run it.
I guess it's a great excuse to let the SA know why I don't want the software updated and also because they can not update the software with out me installing the original cluster first(AFAIK)
Crossing my fingers not having any problems with the car that would require a update because they could then pretty much force me into a update if the repair required it.

This blows. Hopefully there's a way around it sooner or later.

You won't lose a thing. For those of us in the US with 6WB retrofitted, the dealer cannot read our car with ISTA/P (not yet at least). So, if you are going for an oil change or anything that doesn't require a software change, you'll be ok.

Also, 6WB has no fdl coding so reading ecu is not necessary for it.

Taran.J · 03-11-2015, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by possib1edoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

The single thing that pisses me off in BMWs?

NO DIGITAL MPH DISPLAY WITHOUT CODING!!!

Other things are small and come useful but the one thing that really pushes my button on every bmw I own is that.

You couldn't have said it any better! Digital MPH should be standard these days.

All of my Mercedes' have it its just funny how it's there but BMW doesn't let us use it.

opasha · 03-11-2015, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

All of my Mercedes' have it its just funny how it's there but BMW doesn't let us use it.

Yeah, just flat out pointless decoding.

Taran.J · 03-11-2015, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

All of my Mercedes' have it its just funny how it's there but BMW doesn't let us use it.

Yeah, just flat out pointless decoding.

Time to formally write to bmw. Give us our simple codes enabled through settings. Or stop being so childish with 55+ lol

opasha · 03-11-2015, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

Time to formally write to bmw. Give us our simple codes enabled through settings. Or stop being so childish with 55+ lol

Lol, if only it were that simple

.

MattBianco · 03-11-2015, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

Time to formally write to bmw. Give us our simple codes enabled through settings. Or stop being so childish with 55+ lol

OK, you are onto something here. If we do one of those online petitions, I bet we could get bimmperpost and bimmerfest to put in on their front page.

Most people want basic things like unlock doors in Park, lock in D. Mirror fold. Tire temp. etc. The rationale for turning off safety features and alarms is clear, but why I can't get turn signals in HUD when it can be coded that way?

quattrospeed · 03-11-2015, 12:25 AM

I mean is this the end here? Or realistically just a big hiccup?

cenix · 03-11-2015, 12:32 AM

I'm worried that BMW will say that if you don't update to the new firmware that they will not be honoring any warranties. This is unfortunate news.

wdimagineer · 03-11-2015, 12:34 AM

All hope isn't lost. Some modules should be able to be coded using older CAFD files. At least this is what shawnsheridan and I have discussed.

Taran.J · 03-11-2015, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattBianco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taran.J

Time to formally write to bmw. Give us our simple codes enabled through settings. Or stop being so childish with 55+ lol

OK, you are onto something here. If we do one of those online petitions, I bet we could get bimmperpost and bimmerfest to put in on their front page.

Most people want basic things like unlock doors in Park, lock in D. Mirror fold. Tire temp. etc. The rational for turning off safety features and alarms is clear, but why I can't get turn signals in HUD when it can be coded that way?

There you go Matt great idea!

If anybody remembers back in the late 1990s and early 2000s dealers like Lexus, and Mercedes used to ask you things such as; When you press unlock on the key fob do you want all of the doors to unlock or just one? Etc.

Days before on board computer settings were available to drivers at any given time.

These were types of things they asked you when you came in for your first service on the car where the tech would code these settings in for you.

So BMW do what Lexus used to do 20 years ago and help your buyers make the ultimate driving machine, their personal ultimate driving machine

Armen383 · 03-11-2015, 01:14 AM

Always loved BMW for (among other things) the ability to code things the way you like them... Now I guess it's time to prepare myself that after one of the visits to the dealership for a simple oil change, they'll also update the software (just because BMW tells them to, i.e. for all clients with software < X version - do a mandatory update) from 54.3 to w/e; and I'll have to start mashing the auto start/stop button to OFF every time I get into the vehicle, read the stupid legal disclaimers, and everything else that comes with it. Sigh.

K-Bomb · 03-11-2015, 07:48 AM

Is there a list of the CAFD files that we still able to code with the new 55 ??? and opasha can we still do FA and VO coding or thats gone to ???

03-10-2015, 10:32 PM	#1
K-Bomb New Member 10 Rep 7 Posts Drives: Bmw x5 f15 M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Warning coding new software update Ok guys, I just got my x5 back from the dealer for a regular service appointment and the next thing I know is the truck had a new computer update. All my previous codes were gone ( that's expected ) but when I try to code it back, lots of module can't be read. I checked with #Opasha to fix the issue and it seems that the new 55.1 firmware update can no longer be coded. BMW put several restrictions to avoid any type of coding. So if you guys want to keep your presets or still be able to code by yourself....DO NOT do the software update from the dealer. I learn this the hard way and I'm still really disappointed. Spread the info !!!!!!!
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Ashot12 Private First Class 71 Rep 174 Posts Drives: 2014 x35i, lotus Elise sc Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (0)	How do I do that? Do I have to decline software update? Do they update the software when I take it for an oil Change?
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quattrospeed Private First Class 45 Rep 135 Posts Drives: Soon to be F15 X5 x3.0 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bergen Co. iTrader: (0)	So as many of you know, I haven't received my car yet... This is honestly a complete deal breaker. Might sound stupid to some, but I was banking on many of these features. Like the key folding mirrors... Or the increased seat ventilation settings, that's the only reason I gave up terra interior so I can get the luxury seating... Not a good week! First taxes, now this! __________________ ---------------------------------------------------- past: E92 335i xdrive, audi ttrs current: F15 happiness is driving your car after washing it
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Stano Enlisted Member 38 Rep 41 Posts Drives: 2021 M5c Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Detroit iTrader: (1)	wow this sucks. I have the 6WB cluster installed If I was forced into a update I would lose it because the coding involved to be able to run it. I guess it's a great excuse to let the SA know why I don't want the software updated and also because they can not update the software with out me installing the original cluster first(AFAIK) Crossing my fingers not having any problems with the car that would require a update because they could then pretty much force me into a update if the repair required it. This blows. Hopefully there's a way around it sooner or later.
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opasha Brigadier General 1329 Rep 3,990 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW X5 50i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	This is true. It stems back from 54.2 onward, which had been discussed a lot by many bmw forums and even in the coding thread. BMW seems to be making the shift to end coding by making it more difficult. I checked K-Bomb's files tonight and saw all the folders that could not be read due to the software update. The latest seems to be 55.1 that the dealer will put you at. Not much you can do if you have a necessary service appointment . It really is unfortunate. __________________ 2014 X5 50i X-Line // Mineral White
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K-Bomb New Member 10 Rep 7 Posts Drives: Bmw x5 f15 M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Is there a list of the CAFD files that we still able to code with the new 55 ??? and opasha can we still do FA and VO coding or thats gone to ???
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