02-16-2015, 01:08 AM | #1 |
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I'm searching for the possible solutions to mod the red turning signals to Amber/yellow. But I'm getting more confused now. It may be the regional things?
Our F15 tail light has five inner and four outer lines. Inner - 1 and 2 from the top are parking lamps. 3? 4? 5 is the rear fog lamp. Outer - 1 and 2 are parking lamps. 3? 4? I took the shot from the video, this Canadian '14 F15 50i shows the results which I prefer more. The brake lamps - The pic shows they are the inner 3 and the outer 3. My US F15 shows the inner 3 and the outer 3/4. The turning signals - The pic shows the anber/yellow turning signals in the inner 4 and the outer 4. My F15 shows the inner 3 and the outer 3/4. Red. Meanwhile, the owner manual indicated the inner 4 will light up during the heavy brake. Did anyone is US ever see this working? Are these the regional things again? I really like to separate the brake/turning lamps if legally possible. How can I mod them? Thank you. |
02-16-2015, 01:11 AM | #3 |
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My brake and turning lamps - the same.
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You can't do any of that without buying the extra lights, extra wiring, and extra coding. wdimagineer did the rear amber lights from Europe and explained it was not an easy process.
It's just another European "feature" that US does not get. You can however have your parking lamps coded to work as your Rear DRLs so they stay lit automatically like the halos during the day time. In the cheat sheet, this is referred to as TFL Modus and the 4 mapping output codes below it.
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Most of US car models come with Red turning signals. So annoying... Just my personal preference. |
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This is what the onwer manual said...
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As for the location of the brake lamps in addition to these rear DRL lights, that is correct. Euro cars are lucky in the fact that heavy braking allows for flashing brakes (when trying to code the Emergency Flashers, the US lights give an error in the iDrive).
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Accomplishing what you want isn't possible without significant wiring, coding, and of course a set of European tail lights. Rear fogs also require a different switch.
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Hallo Omar Just went through coding sheet which you advised regarding tail lights(want it on during day time as well). Regarding these changes all clear: MAPPING_TAGFAHRL_1_H_L_OUTPUT "switch to" sl_l MAPPING_TAGFAHRL_1_H_R_OUTPUT "switch to" sl_r MAPPING_TAGFAHRL_2_H_L_OUTPUT "switch to" sl_2_l MAPPING_TAGFAHRL_2_H_R_OUTPUT "switch to" sl_2_r BUT!!! TFL_MODUS "is" drl_s "switch to" drl_s (100% parking light brightness), tfl_s (50% parking light brightness) - WHAT DOES IT MEAN??? Not clear to me, could you please explain what to do??? |
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On a separate note, now that you have popped it open, does it look the like red LEDs under the clear section could be swayed to amber? One of the things that really bugs me about this car. I believe the most knowledgeable person on the subject of taillights, to my awareness, is wdimagineer who successfully swapped his taillights to Euro spec so that he could have amber turn signals. And, he then swapped them back to original ones when he sold his F15 (he is now in a sweet F85, like you). From memory, I recall he needed an entirely new wiring harness, new lights, and lots of coding. If you just want to play with the switch, it looks like the part you need is about $100 http://www.etk.cc/bmw/EN/search/sele...CE/61/61_3186/ and varies depending on LED v Xenon in front. |
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Where did you find the rear fog button? Please share the link.
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Theoretically speaking, there has to be some type of coding for the Brake Force display. In other words, the rear fogs are coded to light up if the brake force applied is 10psi or 5gs or something. If someone can crack that code then our modules can be coded so that the smallest amount of pressure to the brake pedal can light up the rear fogs in addition to the brake lights. This would give our cars an appearance of a stronger brake light and if we have our signals blinking, the fogs can remain on almost making it seem like we have a dedicated brake light. Im no engineer just an auditor so I cant get more technical than that if anyone understands what I am talking about.
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What do you mean?
Rear fog button is new control of your lights |
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U.S don't have rear fog light button and our tail lights are different, so it can't be coded either.
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Outdated government regulations concerning vehicle lighting functions are the primary reason. US lighting regulations dictate that a certain percentage of a vehicle's lighting illuminate for certain purposes, like brake or turn signal. Audi and VW cars here are notorious for having combined brake and turn signals. Looks stupid, but satisfies the regulators. Some quotes from an old article I read here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle4629246/ 1. Europe requires amber turn signals. 2. US and Canada allow only red or amber rear turn signals, and only amber in front. 3. US and Canada require a MINIMUM SURFACE AREA for rear turn signals. Thomas Tetzlaff, spokesman for Volkswagen Canada. “The colour of the turn signals on vehicles in Europe is legislated to be amber. In North America, there is no such legislation, but there are different regulations about the minimal surface area of the blinkers. In many cases, you will notice manufacturers, including us, using brake lights as their turn signals in order to comply with the North American regulations.” BMW Canada spokesman Robert Dexter. “Utilizing a red signal allows us to meet the surface area requirement without a redesign of the basic structure of the taillamp assembly, which, as you can imagine, would be a costly endeavour. The red signal option offers a practical solution which fully meets considerations of design and production costs.” And then the BS reasons... the same article quoted this gentleman from BMW saying that aesthetically, customers prefer all red. Or that red lamps are cheaper. Europe also legislates rear fog lamps, something North America doesn't. Some cars sold in the US have rear fog lights, but as you'd expect, the idiots driving them (Audis, mostly) have no idea when and where to use them, so you're blinded. Same goes for front fogs in a lot of places, too. Most BMWs have rear fog lamps in the US and can be enabled with coding and the right switch. I'm sure a few dollars are saved by not installing the switch at the factory.
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I would love to run amber turn signals in the rear. I've put the EU tail lamps in my A4 to have this...looks way better, and safer too IMO since its a colour differentiation over the red tail lamps.
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