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Poor man's 50i?
I've already determined that a 50i is out of my budget... however, I will have the ability to incrementally upgrade a 35i to suit my power hungry needs. For those that have tuned their 35i (assuming I will ultimately have the ability to two options) which two options would you recommend to run concurrently and which would you install first?
MPPK Dinan RC Ultimate JB4 I know the perfect scenario would be to get a 50i but I don't want the additional monthly payments to impact house purchases/refinancing and would rather mod as my budget allows. Thanks guys... Last edited by Blackhawks; 06-03-2015 at 12:32 AM.. |
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Most of the guys that have got the 35i either go for Dinan or JB4.
Heres a thread where the JB4 has been installed and its review: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1129993 r33_RGSport would help you better. Personally I've driven the stock 35i and it needs more work. I think even a race chip might be enough instead of going all the way to full tuning, and it's cheaper. Best of luck. |
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I am running MPPK with BMS stage 1 however I don't really like the way BMS stage 1 delivers its power. It has a decent bit of power but the delivery is not very refined in the sense that the lower gear changes are kind of rough (second to third most notably). I believe Alan l. is running MPPK with Racechip maybe he can chime in on this as well.
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06-03-2015, 07:17 AM | #7 |
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either its a 50i or it isn't. if you must have the performance as I did, and money is an issue, do what I did, buy used. I bought my 2014 F15 50i w/sport pkg with 6000 miles for 66k, MSRP 77345. I see some builds with the 35i that approach the same msrp and wonder.
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06-03-2015, 07:47 AM | #9 |
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Yeah I've read most of his threads and its definitely useful information. He's been an awesome resource at answering questions, as well. I'm wondering why there aren't more Dinan tunes out there... it can't be the cost as it technically(and theoretically based on stats) blows away the MPPK for about a grand more.
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06-03-2015, 08:50 AM | #10 |
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50i is nice to have and if cost was no issue... I would get it.. but in reality the reliability of the V8, along with the fuel consumption, and overall cost to use it brings me to a 35i. Also buying used means you are limited to certain options... not appealing to me.
Blackhawk, This is my own opinion only but people are getting the wrong idea about Dinan.. yes they are warrantied but not by BMW.. but MPPK is. I think this may be one of the reasons why people choose MPPK over Dinan. I have read some horror stories of dinan not backing up their product in some cases. |
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OP, have you considered a 35d? I'm going through the same decision process and people are telling me that the low end torque that the diesel engine provides is a nice tonic for the addiction to V8 torque that we all have.
I'm not sure where I will go with it, but it does occur to me that the feeling of strength I got from my V8 E60 from stop to about 50 MPH had a lot to do with my enjoyment of that car. I had less occasion to leg it out to 110, so the high-RPM sacrifice of the diesel might not register much to me. Performance chips for the 35d are out there too, though I'm not sure I would entrust the longevity of my engine to a $399 tune on any engine.
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Living in Chicago I'm rarely able to get the engine opened wide, but I like knowing it's there when i want it. The MPPK is sounding better and better, especially if it can be installed before I take delivery. I was perplexed why the numbers were so low for such a high cost... but it's good to hear that they were pretty conservatively rated. Being a city living single dad with two young boys (4&6) I won't need a monster that can't stretch it's legs often... but having that nice low end torque to teach a young Civic driving punk a lesson is nice, too. |
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Thanks for the thought. |
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You should go for the MPPK. It seems the general opinion is that the power is underrated. It looks like instead of 320hp, you get 330. That still doesn't account for the 0.5 second 0-60 time reduction. That must be where the throttle response comes in. Coming from a N55, I can tell you there's some throttle lag and the power doesn't seem instant. Just for the improved throttle repsonse, I would get the MPPK. |
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It does make a tough business case for the 5.0 - I felt the very same way about the F10 when I leased a 535 and, for the record, I've never felt like that car lacked any power.
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You need to drive them back to back on your own to make a good decision. Have one of the site sponsors send you a loaner chip and take the 35d for a day (my dealer let me take mine overnight) and see what its really like.
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i went from 50i to 35d with racechip. the "D" is a beast with the chip! so much effortless torque and gets average 28-32mpg. i love it. i really liked the rocket 50i but it was a real gas hog. the diesel goes around 700 miles per tank. and right now diesel is cheaper than premium. the off the line torque from the racechip 35d feels higher than the 50i. its very fun to drive. pulls hard at every shift.
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06-03-2015, 08:34 PM | #22 |
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also another cool point for the 35D. mine now has 10k on it and i can swipe my hand inside the exhaust tips and they are totally clean. no black at all. its pretty damn amazing how clean they run. Also if you have the racechip, your 0-50 times are actually going to hold their own against many sports cars! when anyone has to tell the story of getting smoked by a diesel SUV ...... game over
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